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Singers: [00:00:00] Knock,
knock, hi! Knock, knock,
Will: hi!
Hello everybody, welcome to Knock, Knock, Hi! With the Glockenfleckens, I’m Dr. Glockenflecken.
Kristin: I’m Lady Glockenflecken.
Will: And this is an episode of Glock Talk. We got a lot of stuff to talk about. First of all, uh, how many, what is your, uh, your number of, of Yellowjacket kills for the weekend?
Kristin: Well, I would say that’s a team effort.
Will: You’re, you’re really good at spotting them though.
Kristin: Yeah.
Will: So, so here’s the deal. We just moved. We’re in the country now. All right. We were pretty much every place we’ve lived up until this point has been like in a
Kristin: yeah,
Will: like heavily populated area.
Kristin: Right.
Will: This is the first time we’re like. away from people and where, uh, nature is, is [00:01:00] really, we are in nature’s way.
Kristin: Well, yeah, we’re coexisting.
Will: Exactly. And, and so we’re feeling that in, in the way of like, um, some of our trees are like getting funguses and. Fun, fun
Kristin: guy.
Will: And, uh, and we have yellow jacket problems.
Kristin: Yeah, we have so many. I mean, I’ve lived in the country my whole childhood. I did. I’ve never seen so many yellow jackets on one property.
Like it’s, it’s an insane amount of yellow jackets. It really, really is. But I think we’ve probably. I mean, it’s hard to say, but I feel like we’ve gotten like 75 percent of them.
Will: I feel like it’s
Kristin: reduced. Do you remember when we first moved in? They were everywhere. Like,
Will: like 30 nests, at least in their small nests.
If you get, and
Kristin: what’s the difference between the ones where they lay their eggs, right, that you keep knocking down versus the ones where they go to live. At night because we’ve, we’ve had one of those too, that we’ve [00:02:00] dug up and smashed, and it was like a three parter. It had like three sections to it.
Will: Oh, the, the, um, paper wasp Nest.
Kristin: Yeah. I mean,
Will: if, if you have any recommendations for us , um, we’ve had like a professionals come out and that
Kristin: Yeah.
Will: Helped a little bit. But
Kristin: it, it helps. But even they said, now just keep in mind this is, um, you know, what did they call it? Something like
Will: losing battle,
Kristin: like, no, they said like, it’s wasp or pest control, not pest elimination, right?
Like it’s, it’s pest management.
Will: I found myself fantasizing earlier today is like, if I had You know, if you had like three wishes from a genie, you know, you always, everybody knows like kind of what they’d wish for, you know, I feel like right now, one of the wishes I would do, I like, I have the ability to eradicate one insect group.
Kristin: Can we make it two?
Will: You want mosquitoes gone too, right? Yeah. Yeah. Mosquitoes and. Yellow jackets. Yeah,
Kristin: [00:03:00] like what good are either of those doing?
Will: Do they, do they, do we need them for our global Ecosystem? Right. Like what? I don’t think
Kristin: we need mosquitoes. Mosquitoes
Will: for sure. Like that’s like,
Kristin: do yellow jackets serve a purpose in the ecosystem?
Or are they just
Will: real
Kristin: jerks?
Will: Who’s got, who’s been stung this summer? You have. I have. Our daughter. Our youngest daughter.
Kristin: Uh, the, the landscaper that came out, that’s how we discovered that Giant nest Underground.
Will: Our landscaper. Landscaper. He got stung. He got stung right in the middle of his forehead. Yeah.
Right there. And he was, and and he just stopped working for the day. .
Kristin: Yeah. He is like, you, you need to take care of that. And then I’ll come back. .
Will: Oh man. Um. But the summer hasn’t been just all fighting yellow jackets. We did get to Experience London for the first time. We did and we
Kristin: got to take our kids to New York.
That’s right We
Will: did a little trip. We we hung out in New York for a few days on our way to London and and [00:04:00] the the trip was You know started by my mom Recovering from cancer. Yeah, and all of a sudden we like, oh, we got to go to Wimbledon I’m holding this thing right now in the video for some reason.
That’s how they have something in my hands Uh, it’s like I’m like operating or something. Um, and we so we went to London with the family I took my took my parents with us. Well,
Kristin: you didn’t explain why we had to go to Wimbledon
Will: Oh because it’s her lifelong dream of getting to see Wimbledon We’ve been talking about for a long time and I promised her when I got into med school that I would take her to Wimbledon and She got cancer.
She’s fine now, by the way. It was a high grade liposarcoma, which is not a common cancer and can be very, uh, aggressive. Uh, but, but she’s, after a big surgery, she can’t, she is still cancer free and, but that was like, Oh, I got to get on my horse. We gotta get over to Wimbledon.
Kristin: Between the two of you, it’s like, you know, let’s just do this now.
She’s had her
Will: stuff, I’ve had my things.
Kristin: But
Will: we went, and it was awesome. [00:05:00] The whole trip was fantastic. I didn’t have to do any driving, thank goodness.
Kristin: Yeah,
Will: that would have been tricky. I have gotten hurt. Yep. But, um, uh, we went all over the place. Went up to Oxford. We went to Bath. Yeah. We went to, uh, spent a few days in London.
We saw, we were there. In
Kristin: Stonehenge.
Will: We were in, in England for a very special time. It was when they had the, the changeover of the
Kristin: Parliament. Of
Will: Parliament.
Kristin: Something. The Prime Minister.
Will: We, we saw a new Prime Minister get voted in. Yes, all of Parliament
Kristin: didn’t change over.
Will: And I, I was out in front of Buckingham Palace when the new The incoming prime minister, they have to go to the king and ask.
if he can be prime minister. It’s like a thing. And so I, I was, I was out there in front, you were, you were not quite there yet. I think you were walking toward the Buckingham Palace, but I was there with a big throng of, of
Kristin: Lookie loos. Lookie loos.
Will: So I was there for it. It was great. And then also the later that [00:06:00] night, I think I got to see, uh, England beat Switzerland in the Euro, uh, soccer.
You don’t care as much about that, but
Kristin: Well, I, I vaguely remember. It was very exciting. That that was going on. Yeah.
Will: Everybody’s very excited in England. So it was a great trip. I really enjoyed, uh, you know, I would kind of live tweeted a lot of the vacation. You
Kristin: got on TV.
Will: I
Kristin: was, I was on TV. In the crowd
Will: at Wimbledon.
That was one of the highlights for me. I got on TV. If you were watching, uh, the fourth round matches, uh, uh, I wonder,
Kristin: like, Who’s, what channel was that? Was that It was
Will: like ESPN?
Kristin: Yeah. Like everyone saw you or just like local English broadcast? Well, I got,
Will: I got a couple of, uh, of responses to a tweet about it.
Kristin: I know, but yeah. You don’t know that those people didn’t live in England.
Will: I don’t know. That’s what I’m saying. It may have just been
Kristin: locally. But it was cool.
Will: No, no, no. It was like the broadcast. Like the ESPN. The official? Yeah, the official broadcast. Don’t try to downplay my I’m not [00:07:00] downplaying. I’m just My Wimbledon fame.
It just occurred to
Kristin: me that I didn’t know, like, was this globally or was it just
Will: Um, no, I am, I am now totally famous, even more famous than I, than I ever have been.
Kristin: What if it had said on the screen, Dr. Glaucombe Flecken?
Will: Oh my God. You know, I, I, I didn’t think about this till afterwards. Cause I saw the, the, the video guy right there.
Like he was just off to the side. He was primarily getting this, this young family in front of us. I was just kind of, The big giant American doofus like sitting over there and the whole time I knew he was there. I knew he was recording. I didn’t know it was going to be on TV. So I just had like a, just a, my regular normal face.
But if I had thought about it, I would have given a Jonathan had not missed opportunity.
Kristin: Yeah.
Will: Anyway,
Kristin: too bad.
Will: All right. Well, um, one of the other things in the news, uh, we, we’ve [00:08:00] had, we’re talking about the recent events in England. We’ve had some very scary, difficult recent events in the U. S. with the assassination attempt on Donald Trump.
Wild. Just it, it’s, it was scary and sad for our country. It made political violence. It’s no matter kind of, you know, where you are politically, it’s like settle these, that’s not the way things are settled or should be settled. You know. That’s what
Kristin: voting is for.
Will: Exactly. Exactly. And, and I, the one thing I will say is it’s, it’s interesting to see the social media response with stuff like this happens.
I tend to. Try to like just I don’t want to say anything and sometimes it’s better not to say anything at first because we don’t there’s so much Information coming out. We don’t know exactly what the situation is
Kristin: and you are not a political expert also, right? Like
Will: I mean, there’s why [00:09:00] does
Kristin: everyone with a platform have to say something about every issue even if they know nothing about it You know
Will: Yes, that is, that is very fair.
Um, but in this one in particular, there’s one thing I’m going to point out kind of irritates me about like people in healthcare, like it’s mostly physicians that you hear this from the, so the news broke and within 10 minutes, I saw a couple of posts on Twitter on X about the, how to repair an ear. And which is like.
Okay, like it was like all about, well, the vasculature makes it difficult to, I think there’s a place for that,
Singers: but like
Will: not right away.
Singers: It’s just
Will: a weird thing. And like, I feel like, like people on social media, whenever you do that kind of thing, like that quickly after The thing happened. It feels like [00:10:00] it’s more, you’re trying
Kristin: to
Will: capitalize, you’re trying to get engagement, you’re trying to almost promote yourself
Kristin: in
Will: that way when you’re doing it that soon,
Kristin: right?
Will: And it’s just like, in that moment, like how many people really care about the, like, how to repair an ear? Vasculature
Kristin: of an ear. Like what?
Will: You know, it’s like, like there’s, that is, it’s great education, sure. It’s just like a timing thing that strikes me as odd. I guess that’s the thing.
Kristin: Right.
Will: So I don’t know.
I just, I saw that and if it had been like maybe a few days later, that would be fine. Like, but it just, when it happens right then and there, like within 10 minutes of newsbreaking, you’re like doing a tweet a torial about your, you know, uh, anatomy. I
Kristin: see the, the logic behind it, I guess, or the, the impulse, because that’s the way it works generally.
You see something in the news. You, you know, you want to. Get something [00:11:00] out there right away, right? 24 hour news cycles and all these things that like, you want it to be very timely. Um, but there’s, you know, certain things that might happen where maybe you don’t, uh, it’s not appropriate for it to be right away.
Will: Yeah. And maybe this is just. Because in the grand scheme of like offensive things people can say after a very serious thing like a presidential candidate getting shot
Kristin: Right
Will: That’s probably like lower on the list of offensive things Yeah,
Kristin: this is a very extremely niche complaint that you’re having
Will: But I do see it over and over again, and it’s in the other context that I’ve seen it is When people have like cardiac arrests
Singers: Mm hmm
Will: Athletes that have cardiac arrest, or even like severe injuries and then like, bam, immediately you start seeing the, the, the, the people come out with, with, um, I don’t know that kind of [00:12:00] response.
And it’s. Yeah, I don’t
Kristin: know. I see both sides of it. I’m a little more torn about it. I’m not super irritated. I get it. Because that’s when people, I mean, okay, maybe not the vasculature of the ear, but like,
Will: that one was, it was,
Kristin: that’s,
Will: I saw two different,
Kristin: pretty extreme,
Will: uh, threads, tweet threads, uh, just about what happens like with an ear injury and what could be the other aspects of the ear injury that can cause problems.
And then what, it’s like, okay, that’s like
Kristin: with cardiac arrest, you know, to talk about, to use that moment to talk about Cardiac arrest in the public sphere. It’s because that’s when people are paying attention about it and like receptive to learning about it. And it is something that can save people’s lives to know.
Now, what I would say is not great is all of the speculating about the individual athletes circumstances before anyone actually knows [00:13:00] what’s going on. Like when DeMar Hamlin had his cardiac arrest, uh, and everybody was speculating about what may have caused it. That stuff kind of. feels insensitive to me, but I don’t mind it if they’re wanting to use that, you know, thing in the news, current event, as a public health, you know, awareness campaign, sort of.
Singers: I think,
Kristin: I think you have to be careful in how you do it, for sure, because you don’t, you don’t want it to feel like you’re using somebody’s horrible day and horrible, you know, events, um,
Will: for, for your own gain.
Kristin: Right, but then is it okay to do it for the public’s gain?
Will: And is the public asking for that? Do they need it?
Is it helpful? Is it actually helpful? So I don’t know. I mean, I’m sure people have different reactions to this. I was actually, with regard to the assassination attempt, which I believe it was an assassination attempt, I guess right now, maybe we don’t know. But um, uh, [00:14:00] the, I was looking at the responses to those people doing that.
And there were just a few people that really kind of felt like me. Like, this is kind of a weird thing to tweet at this time. So again, like not that big of a deal, but I’ve just been on my mind. Kind of a
Kristin: gray area in the modern day. Yeah,
Will: exactly. Um, and it’s, it’s very unique to Twitter X. Yeah. Cause I think that’s where a lot of people still get their like breaking news.
You know, like that’s, that’s where you’re going to see. Yeah. I don’t know. Does Instagram provide you that? Like, breaking that level of breaking news? I feel like it’s for a social media platform. Not in the
Kristin: same way, not as
Will: much. Okay.
Kristin: Yeah. I mean, you know, there’s news accounts on Instagram that will Teach me, teach
Will: me Instagram, millennial woman.
Kristin: You are younger than me. You are also a millennial.
Will: All right, let’s take a break. We’ll be right back.
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All right, we are back. And, uh, there’s a question that I was asked recently on social media that I thought I’d pose to you.
Kristin: Okay.
Will: Would you encourage our children to go into medicine? Knowing what you know.
Singers: If
Will: child number one said, I Really kind of want to be a doctor.
Singers: Mm hmm.
Kristin: I Think that if that was something that they really wanted to do And you can kind of tell you know with kids like especially when it’s your kids and you’ve seen them from day one You [00:16:00] can kind of tell if that’s something that’s like in them, you know?
And if that were the case, it’s in them and they really want to do it. And, you know, then of course I would support whatever they really want to do. But with child number one in particular, I don’t think that is. Inherently in her to want to go into medicine. She’s a little more like I am, uh, when it comes to bodies.
Will: So I would maybe have
Kristin: some questions for her.
Will: Our youngest is the most likely to maybe go that route. Yeah, I could see it potentially,
Kristin: right? Maybe it’s neither one of them seem like, like my older brother. Um, from a very young age, you know, he was going to, it was clear he was going to be doing something in that realm.
He didn’t become a physician, but he, you know, it, he became something very related. So, biomedical
Will: engineering,
Kristin: right. Um, smart field, which is even nerdier. Yeah.
Will: Very, very
Kristin: smart. But, uh, but that’s my point, right? [00:17:00] Like neither of our kids. are like that, where we can just tell. In fact, you know what? Our youngest one, if she came to me and she said, I want to be a race car driver, I would be like, of course you do.
That makes a lot of sense. Oh yeah.
Will: She’s
Kristin: a daredevil. Like that’s what seems.
Will: So here’s, here’s the, the one difference, the one thing I would do differently than when I was going through med school, just to, just to make it easier, I would do everything that I can to pay for med school for our child. And I realized like we have the.
Kristin: Not everyone can do that. Not everybody
Will: can do that. Right.
Kristin: Our parents couldn’t do that.
Will: But I just, I remember I, thinking back just to, to all the stress that, that we’ve had, like I feel like if we didn’t have that big loan number like hanging over us for a while, now it’s, it’s, we’re okay. Like we’re kind of out of the, the most difficult part of that.
It’s funny
Kristin: though, you know what’s funny is, okay. You’ve always been more stressed out about that number [00:18:00] than I have, for whatever reason.
Will: Well, I think I know the reason. Well, because, because I, I brought it on to our
Kristin: Oh, so you feel responsible. I feel responsible
Will: for it. Okay. And the whole reason that we have that debt is because of the promise that my career will pay off that debt.
Kristin: Right.
Will: So, I do, that’s that, like, added stress I guess,
Kristin: kind of, but Then, you know, ever since then, this was going to be my point, ever since then, we’ve taken on more debt. It’s all been responsible debt, right, but mortgages, um, you know, investments into your practice, things like that, right, that start as debt and you, over time, you pay it up.
Those things have been way larger than. You know, your student loan debt, which was, which was substantial. I’m not saying it’s not, but these other things have been more. And so it’s interesting to me that the student loan debt hangs over your head in a different way than those things do, even [00:19:00] though Well,
Will: now it’s not as much.
I’m talking like my first, those first few years out in practice.
Kristin: Yeah.
Will: You know, residency when Oh yeah.
Kristin: In residency it was really daunting ’cause it was like, we’re hardly, like we are living month to month,
Will: we’re doing like income based repayments. So you see the, yeah. Despite your loan payment, like the, the principal, the interest just keeps adding higher and higher and so the numbers getting bigger.
It even though you’re paying. Yeah. I think it ballooned from, I, I remember when I finished med school, the number was like two. Something and then by the time I finished residency is up to like 315 So it’s like that that was where that was the most amount of stress. I felt yeah Cuz you’re like
Kristin: actively making some payments on it every month like you are And you feel that because you don’t have a lot of money coming in but then it’s getting bigger
Will: like I’ve got to finish Training so I [00:20:00] can, so I can start digging into this and that, and that was, and I was fortunate because of me, we refinanced my loans eventually.
Cause we had like multiple different sources. So eventually we refinanced to one loan person. What do you call them? Yeah,
Kristin: lender.
Will: That’s the one. At like, uh, what is our, our lowest rate is like two, it’s still at 2. 95.
Kristin: Okay.
Will: Which you can’t find anymore.
Kristin: No, you can’t.
Will: So. I’m not
Kristin: sure anyone’s still listening.
Will: Oh, come on. You guys are, lots of people can relate to debt. Anyway, the point is, I would not discourage my children from medicine, but that’s, I would, I would want to just try to, if not pay for all of their. Tuition at least keep it manageable like
Kristin: yeah,
Will: like pay for a significant amount of it So that you know, maybe last to your point like maybe a little debts good I don’t know.
Well,
Kristin: you look debt is not inherently good or bad I don’t think I think and granted, you know, I am NOT a financial [00:21:00] professional by any stretch So this is not professional advice by any means but me personally my opinion is Debt can be a tool if you use it responsibly, you know, like I think it is also this, um, I don’t know.
It’s a particular mindset that keeps people from growing wealth to think that they can never go into debt or they should never be in debt because there is some debt that is used. Now it’s complicated and you have to be able to do it responsibly and to know what you’re doing and to have the resources to be able to pay that debt off in, you know, a timeframe that makes sense.
But to just, you know, make it black and white of just debt is always bad, period. I don’t think that’s, um, As long as you pay your credit
Will: card bill every month.
Kristin: Yeah, you definitely need to do that. But, but even that, like paying your credit card off every month, that’s useful [00:22:00] as a tool, like that helps you build credit.
You know, that helps you.
Will: Which of our kids are you most worried about getting a credit card? Oh
Kristin: my goodness. Um.
Will: Number two.
Kristin: No, I was gonna say number one. I think number two.
Will: What?
Kristin: Because look, our kids are a pretty good mix of us. And then they have some things that are all just them, right? Like every kid and kid number one.
Well, our personalities are very similar. She does a lot like you. Uh, she’s a little bit absent minded. Right, like she, you both never know where you put things, you can’t keep track of,
Will: you know,
Kristin: and so I’m, I would be a little less confident, you know, I’d want to see that she could handle it before she got one.
Kid number two is in general more like you personality wise, but she has in common with me We’re very kind of detail oriented and we keep track of things and you know So I think I think if she understands the whole situation and what can [00:23:00] happen if she doesn’t do it Well, I think she would be fine. I’d be a little concerned about what she’s buying for sure, but
Will: When you said detail oriented, it’s, it reminded me of a conversation I usually have with patients about cataract surgery, and it made me realize I think you’re going to be a nightmare to do cataract surgery on.
Kristin: Oh, good. Why is that?
Will: Because
Kristin: For the record, you’re not doing my cataract surgery. Oh, that out there right now. Oh, no, no,
Will: no. That’s, you don’t do, you don’t do surgery on your, on your family.
Kristin: Right. But even if you could, I would like a different doctor.
Will: That’s fair. You are
Kristin: very competent. I don’t want people to misunderstand.
You are an excellent surgeon. But as I’ve seen how it is when I am just your clinic patient
Singers: And
Kristin: I feel like there’s a little bit of like, oh, I don’t have to do all the usual stuff because it’s just my life
Will: Well, it’s interesting because it this topic comes up sometimes on social media about VIP patients and how it’s actually bad to be a [00:24:00] VIP patient because Um, people will get out of their usual routine because you’re a,
Kristin: quote, VIP, so
Will: doing it differently for you so they’re not, you know, they’re not, uh, you know, paying attention to maybe the right things or just getting out of your normal routine can introduce the possibility of complications.
That
Kristin: makes a lot of sense. Yeah.
Will: Yeah. So like, I, I don’t want, at this point. Like, I am probably considered a VIP, like, going, like, receiving,
Kristin: within the medical community.
Will: Just because, like, every physician knows my face.
Kristin: But I haven’t seen that.
Will: Can I tell you, can I tell you a story? I don’t know if I’ve even told you this.
Okay. Well,
Kristin: hold on though, before we do that.
Will: Okay, one more break. Okay. Yeah, let’s do that. We’ll be right back
Hey Christian, you know how it’s kind of hard to make friends in your 30s
Kristin: [00:25:00] Yeah, cuz you don’t see anyone or go anywhere.
Will: It’s complicated right with kids and work,
Kristin: right?
Will: Well, I I brought some friends for you Demodex
Kristin: Okay,
Will: Demodex mites. You
Kristin: shouldn’t
Will: have. They can just live with you, on you, all over you.
Yeah, what do you think? Aren’t they cute?
Kristin: Well, these ones are, but I don’t think the real ones are quite this cute as the stuffed ones.
Will: They’ll listen to you. They’ll listen to your secrets. Oh, I’ll keep
Kristin: them. Locked away in their ribbed bodies. So
Will: these little guys, they live on your eyelids and they can cause a disease called Demodex blepharitis.
Kristin: Yeah, like itchy crests. Flaky
Will: irritated eyelids. That’s right. No one wants it, but it’s important that when people hear this, they don’t get freaked out by this. You gotta get checked out, checked out, not freaked out because, you know, coming to the eye clinic, we’ll talk to you about demodex and demodex blepharitis and see what’s going on to find out more.
Go to eyelidcheck. com again. That’s E Y E L I [00:26:00] D check. to get more information about Kristen’s new friends here, Demodex Blepharitis. All right. So here’s my, my personal VIP story. So, I’ve had moments where, because I’ve seen so many different doctors, where, um, I am seeing a, a, an attending and they’re at a teaching hospital and they say, Oh, my, uh, you know, my, we love your content and my, my med students or my resident, you know, would love to meet you.
Like that’s fine. Sure. That’s always a lot of fun. Cause then they come in and I was like, Oh, which specialty are you going into? Oh, you should not do that. You should do ophthalmology instead. You’re making the biggest mistake of your life. All those things, you know, and, um, and that’s fine, but there’s one, one thing that happened that really I still think about, and I’ve never talked about this, but it was a few years ago and I’m not going to say what specialty it [00:27:00] was, but I was having my appointment and.
And a, an attending that wasn’t the physician that was taking care of me. So a different physician saw my name on the schedule and decided to come into the room
Kristin: and
Will: say hi to me.
Kristin: Yeah. That feels a little squishy. Like
Will: I felt weird about that
Kristin: to another patient.
Will: Like I knew that I, I was like, something didn’t feel right about it.
I was like, I wouldn’t do that. Like if, if I looked on
Kristin: the schedule
Will: and if I saw like, Tom Cruise, right, on the schedule.
Kristin: I wouldn’t pop
Will: my head and be like, Tom,
Kristin: what’s up?
Will: I love Mission Impossible, like,
Kristin: yeah,
Will: and so in the moment I was I was just kind of like I wasn’t like it was a very nice person and I was like I was you know Hi, yeah, thanks, you know great But that’s the kind of thing that doesn’t [00:28:00] normally happen.
And I don’t know, I don’t know how, how to feel. I still think about it. Obviously I’m telling the story now. It’s been a few years since that happened, but, um, that’s not something you do. And I would encourage people not to do that to people that might be a bit more notable.
Kristin: Right. Yeah, that does feel a little weird.
Um, I don’t know. Sometimes I think too, like, what if you had something really embarrassing or I don’t know, like, what if you had an anal fissure? Well, when I’m
Will: in the urology clinic now and I get my injection, I, the, the, the tech comes in and then I get undressed and my ass is up in the air.
Kristin: Right.
Will: When my physician walks in.
Kristin: Correct. But so is everyone else’s that she’s doing that procedure on. Like, that’s just how that goes.
Will: Yeah.
Kristin: But, but yeah, like when there are embarrassing things like that, like,
Will: it’s just not, would you
Kristin: be hesitant to seek care? Because you don’t. Want to go in and have it be a whole [00:29:00] thing or to be recognized.
There’s something nice about like being anonymous at the doctor’s office, even me, like people that see my name and know
Will: me, I
Kristin: feel a little bit like, well, do they know me? Do they not like, do they know who my husband is? Right? Like, do they know this part or do I still have my, you know, anonymity in this setting?
And I never know, cause they don’t really say, but. You have to assume they know who you are. It’s just a matter of if they’ve connected the dots that I’m attached to you.
Will: Yeah, I do. That’s really like the, the worst part about this whole Glockenflagen thing for me, is there are certain times where I really do wish I still had some anonymity and going to see a new doctor, because I see so many doctors.
Kristin: Right, you have all these health problems.
Will: Or like taking my kids in to see, you know, like, I wish I, you know, I wasn’t so recognizable in healthcare in those situations. Other times, like, it’s fine. I love it. I love when people come up to me and say [00:30:00] hi and tell me who their favorite character is, and it’s always Jonathan.
And then it’s, it’s, um, you know, or ortho bros. I love when ortho bros come say hi to me.
Kristin: Yeah.
Will: But that situation, it’s a little, I don’t know. And so I, you know, I mean,
Kristin: overall, it’s the whole thing is a positive. And like the other time
Will: is, um, is, uh, conferences.
Kristin: Yeah. You can’t go to a conference to learn
Will: anymore.
I can’t go to an ophthalmology conference to learn anything. Cause I, I, I get stopped too often. I just ended up taking pictures all the time.
Kristin: Let’s be
Will: honest, did you ever? That’s true. That’s true. How often
Kristin: have I actually
Will: learned? I’ve gotten CME, but now I can get CME like at all these places I speak at.
But, uh, it is, uh, ophthalmology conferences are a little bit different now and it’s, it’s more of a. More of a whole thing, but um,
Kristin: yeah in the end these aren’t fun and it’s like this is something that you chose We chose.
Will: I brought all of this on myself. I don’t know. I’m not really Complaining. It’s just
Kristin: [00:31:00] kind of like, huh?
This is weird.
Will: Yeah, but anyway as far as the wrapping up the VIP discussion It’s you know, I still remember my the program the ophthalmology chair at Iowa You He had to have some kind of surgery and, and he’s, he always tells. You know, trainees that come in, it’s like, he really doesn’t like the whole VIP, the fact that you can designate someone as a VIP patient in the chart.
That feels
Kristin: wrong in healthcare, that some people are very important and some people are not.
Will: Well, yeah, no, you’re right, like, why? Why is that even a designation, you know? There are Certain things that the medical record will allow you to do though, as a quote VIP, if you’re designated as that, there’s this break the glass thing where, because looky loose might want to try to look at your chart if you’re like some kind of famous [00:32:00] person.
So you have this like break the glass where you try to open a patient’s chart, but then you have to have some kind of password or something. A
Kristin: little extra security for that
Will: person’s medical record. That’s
Kristin: fine.
Will: Yeah. And so, so that, that makes sense, but that just shows you like, okay, maybe there, there is, there is a reason why someone would be labeled as a VIP for that particular reason.
But in general, as far as patient care goes, like much better to be anonymous, I think.
Kristin: Yeah. Sometimes anonymity, anonymity,
Will: sometimes
Kristin: being anonymous is really nice. But don’t
Will: go introduce yourself to a famous person out of the blue, unless you’re part of the healthcare team. Taking care of that person.
Kristin: Yes, don’t go into an exam room that does not belong to you.
Just in general. Especially
Will: be careful if it’s urology because that person might be ass up.
Kristin: Sunny side up on the frying pan.
Will: Oh man.
Kristin: That feels like a good place to [00:33:00] end it. Should we, should we stop? Is that
Will: good? Anything else you wanted to add?
Kristin: People have heard enough about your butt now.
Will: Every three months, I got a couple weeks. I can start feeling myself, like, getting a little bit low on testosterone.
Kristin: Yeah, um, everyone can.
Will: Is it that time of the three months?
It’s like every three months I go and I get these little pellets shot in my ass.
Kristin: Yeah.
Will: And I start getting a little cranky. Yeah,
Kristin: hormones, man. I’m sure you, you know, it goes both directions probably. I don’t know. Maybe you’re just not paying attention.
Will: No, I can tell. I could tell.
Kristin: I don’t know. We’ll see.
Will: But you’re, you don’t, you’re not afraid to like tell me about it.
I’m a little bit more afraid to tell you about it.
Kristin: It’s true. Here’s the thing. I already know. Ali, I can feel it also, just like you can feel it when you’re getting, so we both know, so, and that’s fine. I, it’s not like I want you to be happy, go lucky all the [00:34:00] time. And that’s not what I’m saying. It’s just like,
Will: we’re talking about testosterone, by the way,
Kristin: for you,
Will: big T.
Yeah.
Kristin: Uh, but when you’re getting low, it’s like, just, you know, it’s what I tell the kids, like, Even if you are hungry, not feeling good, low on testosterone, whatever it might be, you still have to be nice to the people around you. Like, it’s okay if you’re not feeling great, but you still have to, like, be human.
Will: We’re about to have a lot more, uh, uh, hormones in our house.
Kristin: I know. I’m scared.
Singers: Yeah.
Kristin: Yep,
Singers: yep.
Kristin: Yeah, this year I feel like is probably, probably gonna be the year. She’s going into seventh grade.
Will: Uh huh.
Kristin: That’s, that’s a big one.
Will: I remember seventh grade being not a great.
Kristin: I think, generally speaking, 7th grade for people is rough.
Will: Mm hmm. Is it, is it, you think it’s better for the, like, 2nd girl?
Kristin: I’m even more afraid of when she’s in seventh
Will: grade. Okay. All right. I think I gotta be better I was thinking maybe like [00:35:00] you go through it as parents and like you’d kind of know
Kristin: I think it’s awful No matter how many kids you have Yeah, I think every time because every kid is unique right like they all so whatever issues come up with kid one It’s gonna be totally different issues with kid two and you know, no one ever knows what they’re doing.
Will: But I also I’ve also always told, like, that the girls, they, they bump heads with you, with the mom, more than the dad at that age. Was that the case with you?
Kristin: Oh yeah.
Will: I don’t know why I asked. I knew exactly what the answer to that is. All right, well.
Kristin: Yeah, so we’ve got that to look forward to.
Will: Enjoy.
Kristin: Yeah.
Well, and you get to enjoy also, because you’ll be the one thrust in the middle to solve all the arguments. Thanks.
Will: Can I just stick to like killing bugs? It can I I mean
Kristin: Fortunately, no, you will continue to kill the bugs, but you will have this added
Will: to your job duties. Okay, fair enough [00:36:00] Alright. Well, let’s see.
Should we take a look at a medical story before we go? Alright, let’s do that. Alright, so this is from Molly This is a note before our our live show in Irvine Dear Lady Glockenflicken, I’m so excited for your upcoming show this weekend, as I’m sure you’ve heard many times, the world of emergency medicine considers you an honorary Bafford Badass ER doctor.
Our highest term of esteem. In addition to the obvious kudos for pretty much single handedly saving your spouse’s life, I’m so excited for your upcoming show this weekend, as I’m sure you’ve heard many times, the world of emergency medicine considers you an honorary Bafford Badass ER doctor. Our highest term of esteem.
In addition to the obvious kudos for pretty much single handedly saving your spouse’s life, I wanted to reach out human to human to acknowledge the enormity of what you went through. These are the kinds of moments that cleave one’s life into an unmistakable before and after. Finally, that’s true. Thanks for unknowingly serving as a mental model.
One night in spring 2022, when I thought my husband might code while in white knuckling my iPhone and debating a call to nine one one. I calmed myself by rehearsing a plan for Lady G style CPR if needed. spoil alert, no cardiac arrest. [00:37:00] Less awesomely, the chest pain ended up being long COVID. Two years later, Kevin’s still stuck in bed and would otherwise join me on the show, at your show.
Um, he’s non medical and would have missed a lot of the humor. But he loves how much your husband’s videos make me belly laugh. Thanks for all you do. Oh, that’s very nice.
Kristin: That is nice uh, I did I Wasn’t single handedly. I feel a need to point like there were a lot of other people involved, but
Will: that was very nice Yes,
Kristin: thank you.
That’s very nice That is, you know, as with all these things, if there’s some good that can come out of the really bad stuff, then I’ll take it.
Will: Well, thank you for that, Molly. Uh, and send us your thoughts and stories. Knock, knock, hi, at human content. com. Uh, do you have any topics that you want us to discuss?
Uh, are you having any marital problems that you want us to mediate?
Kristin: That would be fun.
Will: Isn’t that like, we could take sides. We could argue for you and, and probably just make things worse, but it would [00:38:00] be good entertainment at the very least. Lots of ways you can hit us up, email us knock, knock, hide human dash content.
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Kristin: I mean.
Will: You’re always telling me how to Instagram works and I don’t know
Kristin: it’s have you considered that it’s not that I love Instagram It’s that you’re dumb on Instagram
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Kristin: Oh,
Will: I like that name, Crescentia. Thank you. Makes me want a
Kristin: croissant.
Will: Welcome to the team, Crescentia. Have a croissant on us. Delicious.
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Kristen, what would you say is the most important part of my job as an ophthalmologist?
Kristin: Helping people see better.
Will: That’s a much better answer than getting home at five o’clock every day.
Kristin: Yeah. I mean, I do like that part too. That’s good.
Will: The most important part of my job is not clinical documentation.
Kristin: Right. That is the [00:41:00] most worst part of your job.
Will: I have to do it. It’s important, but I like doing other things too. Cool. Like restoring eyesight, talking to my patients, developing those relationships.
Kristin: Looking at them in the eyes. Yes.
Will: You know, it helps me do that. The DAX co pilot for Nuance. Yeah. It’s ambient technology, AI powered.
It helps me actually like maintain those relationships. I can actually develop. Uh, a rapport with patients that you can’t do otherwise.
Kristin: People tend to prefer it when you’re looking at them when you talk instead of typing.
Will: 80 percent of patients say their physician is more focused with DAX Copilot. 85 percent say their physician is more personable and conversational.
Kristin: Well, how about that? You could use a little help in that area. I
Will: need a little, a little boost from time to time. To learn more about the Nuance Dragon Ambient Experience or DAX Copilot, visit nuance. com slash discover DAX. That’s N U A N C E dot com slash discover D A [00:42:00] X.
