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[00:00:00] Knock, knock, hi! Knock, knock, hi!

Hello, welcome to Knock, Knock, Hi! with the Glockenfleckens. I am Will Flannery, also known as Dr. Glockenflecken. I am Kristen Flannery, also known as Lady Glockenflecken. It’s time for Glock Talk. That’s right, our weekly time where we talk to each other. God, yeah. Oh, it’s not even weekly, it’s monthly, isn’t it?

Ha ha ha. No, it’s twice a month. Twice a month? Yeah. Okay. So we get to talk to each other two times a month. Yeah. That’s why I forced you to do this podcast really is just that we didn’t have a chance to talk to each other. It does see it’s it’s really easy to You know, we’ve been married for A good number.

A good number of years. No, this is our, this year is our 15th wedding anniversary. 2009? Yeah, you’re right. Yeah. 15 years. [00:01:00] Yeah. And there are stretches of time where we just don’t get to talk. Oh, many, many of those. Life gets in the way. I mean, we’re talking, but it’s always like, okay, can you do this while I do this?

Yeah. It’s not like Actual conversation. So we figured the only the best way to actually get to spend some time Talking with each other is to have an audience. Yes to do it in front of you all. It’s so so here we are So anyway, what I thought we’d do right off the bat here We we are halfway through the year Yes, almost.

It’s time for the Glockenflecken performance reviews. Q2 performance review. That’s right. We’re gonna give each other a performance review on the ear. Okay, because we do have a business together. And so, I don’t know. Are you my boss and I’m your boss? Is that how this works? We’re co owners of the business.

We both own the thing. Right, but for a performance review. Oh, we give each other the review. Yes. Because [00:02:00] this is what you do in business. Yeah, everybody’s got a point. I’m a little nervous. As most people are when they walk in for their performance review. Have you ever had a performance review? Yeah, like every year for ten years.

Yeah, what was it like walking into the, so this was when you were at the Bell and Blank Center in Iowa. I think we even had them in grad school. I mean, I think I’ve had performance reviews every year ever since I graduated from college. Yeah. I I hate them. They, even when I knew there was like nothing bad, right.

I just, I don’t like it. It feels like going to the principal’s office or something. Never liked it. Since I’ve joined my practice, I had a few when I was an associate, but then once I became a partner, they kind of stopped and you just, you know, if like, you’re doing a bad job because like patients start getting mad at you and that doesn’t happen, so I feel like I’m doing okay.

Um, but anyway, let’s do it. Alright. Why don’t you go first? You give me a performance review. [00:03:00] Okay. Uh, well, normally on this sort of thing you would have like, some kind of a rubric, right? With like, your, the goals that you had set for yourself, and like, how well, yeah. We’re not that organized. No, we’re Like, walk off like an LLC.

Well, we do actually have goals for the organization, but we don’t have like, on an individual level. Do we have a code of conduct? Correct. Uh, no, not yet. Would you like one? It’s like a business y thing that you do. We are getting an HR person. Guys, we’re flying by the seat of our pants here. This is what happens when you have like a three person business.

Exactly. So, you and me and an employee. Yep, we’re scrappy. Alright. Um, yeah, so normally you would have goals and you would, you know, do, you’d have like metrics and things. We don’t have any of that. On a scale from one to ten. I would say Overall I’d give you like an An 8 or a 9, because I think you do, obviously, you do your [00:04:00] content very well.

That’s the whole reason that we’re here in the first place and that we have this business. Um, you’ve been working very hard this quarter. This is keynote season, which is always a lot of travel, a lot of speeches, a lot of writing. Um, in addition to putting this podcast out there every week, um. You’re giving me a compliment sandwich here, I can tell, it’s coming.

No, it wasn’t going to be a sandwich, it was just going to be, like, what’s the open faced sandwich? It might be one of those. There’s no second piece of bread, though. That’s it, just the filling. Uh, where I think you can improve is, um, collaboration, because you’re kind of a lone wolf. You. Think things in your head and then you stop.

Okay. I mean you do the thing but you forget to tell everybody else about anything. I don’t communicate. And you keep all your documents separate and like it’s hard to like do the [00:05:00] collaborative things sometimes. Like we’re working on the systems there. This is a constant struggle for me. Yes. And the other area for improvement would be to have some fun sometimes and just like not work.

Hmm. Do you remember what that’s like? I don’t. We did it for a hot minute when you became an attending. Is that, is that what, is that what it was? Yeah, like remember how we used to go, like, do things as a family and like go places around this area? Yeah. We would go to the coast, we would go to the mountain, we would go, we don’t go anywhere anymore except for We do local things.

Glockenflecken travel. Now we do kids sports events. Yeah, yeah. Locally. Which as our listeners can probably, some of them can attest, like that can easily take up most of your free time. That is part of what has happened. But the other part is just, on the weekends, now we work. Yeah, yeah, [00:06:00] okay. So, but all, but your actual production and the quality of your output?

Mm hmm. Top notch. Okay, great. Even this podcast? Yeah. We’re doing all right? I mean, I guess, they’ll tell us. I haven’t looked at the stats lately. I hope somebody’s listening. I don’t know. Okay. All right. I appreciate that. Uh, okay. So I guess I give you a performance review, I would say on a scale from one to 10, I, um, do you even know what I do?

Of course I know what you do. For this business? Yes. You like make it go. You make it happen. In what way? I would have to give you like an 11 out of 10. Now you’re sucking up. Nope. Nope. I’m not just saying that because you’re my wife and, um, I want you to be very happy with me. Um, you manage all, you’re doing a great job.

Strategizing. That’s something that [00:07:00] you do. That is something I do correct. You strategize? Mm-Hmm. You think about the future. I am not a very, uh, you know, future oriented person. I, I think in terms of what do I have to do in the next 24 hours? Beyond 24 hours, the time does not exist. Mm-Hmm. , I know this about you and I like it that way.

Mm-Hmm. . I think we, that’s nuts. I think that’s why we’re a good balance for each other. That’s true. It’s a good team. Right. So you’re, I, we, but we need the future oriented thinking, um, the marketing. I don’t have a mind for marketing at all. And, um, you tell me like where things need to be posted and when and, and what, uh, why we shouldn’t do this and why we should do that to, you know, you know, help the brand grow.

Um, What do you need to improve on? Hmm. How about coming up with, uh, uh, [00:08:00] maybe, uh, some more of the, uh, podcast ideas for the Glock Talks? No, you’re just cheating. Cause we just had a conversation about this. We had a conversation 10 minutes before we started recording about what we were going to talk about.

And she was like, I don’t know. You can think about it as you drive to the post office to mail our tax forms. Multitasking. So, you know, a little bit of, um, a little bit of, uh, preparation might be helpful. Uh, sure. However, I will say, in order for that to work, I do have some needs. Okay. Which is that you can’t just spring it on me at the last minute.

I do need some lead time. I’m not talking about, like, me. I’m talking about, like, coming up with some segments. Like, I, I, I came up with a lot of segments. Yes. I’d love to hear some from your perspective. Yeah. What do you think? So, if you give me some lead time, I can put some of those together. Oh, you have all the lead time in the world just to go do it.

Ha [00:09:00] ha ha. Milo’s growling at you. He doesn’t like you, he doesn’t appreciate your tone. But, hey, I gave you 11 out of 10, so It’s fake. It’s a fake 11. Um, but I, I think that, uh, both of us, you coming on board, like, what, a couple of years ago now, has helped, like, take us to, like, the next level and be able to do more projects than we would not otherwise be able to do.

Which I very much appreciate, because it was total, 100 percent flying by the seat of my pants. Because I was trying to juggle being an ophthalmologist and doing this thing all by myself. Yeah, in the early days. I remember you’ve kind of just said yes to everything. I did I had to learn how to say no to people Which I have to do I do that a lot I have to decline a lot of invitations to do things just out of necessity and hours of the day and [00:10:00] everything and You, you have definitely helped me tell me, look, that is not really, it’s not either, either not worth the time because you have to be away from the family for too long doing something.

Or like, hey, you’re already doing this many things. You’re thinking about doing that many things plus one. Maybe Maybe do that many things minus one. Yeah, if you’re going to do a plus, then what’s the minus? What’s your full? So anyway, I think that’s, we got a good, a good, uh, um, we work well together. Yeah, I would say so.

We started our relationship working together, sort of, so it makes sense. Yeah. This is why we do a podcast, so we can talk to each other, because we can only do it in the context of work. That makes us sound so sad as a married couple. We do occasionally talk about things outside of work, alright? I don’t remember what those things are, but occasionally it [00:11:00] happens.

It does. It has been known to happen in the past. Alright. Uh, do you have anything else to add for our performance review? No, I think that covers it. Okay. It was good. Alright, things are going well? Yeah. I think they’re going well. High five. There we go. Good job, buddy. See, the thing is, it takes a little bit of the, the um, the, the gravity out of the situation when we can’t fire each other.

Mm hmm. We also can’t really give each other a raise. Uh, so there’s, there’s really low stakes to what we just did, wasn’t it? That’s true. That’s okay though. That’s best that way. All right. Should we get into, um, health news? Oh, it’s my favorite segment. It’s, it’s the best segment you’ve ever thought of.

People love this about Glock talk. It’s, it’s, do you hear that feedback? No. Okay. That’s feedback I just made up. I haven’t seen that. But, um, I decided to change the segment a little bit from just health news to questionably helpful health news. So it’s like popular science health news. Okay. Yeah. Like headlines in the news about [00:12:00] health.

Yeah. So here’s one. And I’m not going to even tell you like where this came from. Just know that I saw a headline from somewhere on the internet. Daily showers could be harmful for skin health, some experts claim. I’ve heard this. How often do you shower? Uh Tell the world how often you clean yourself.

That’s a very personal question. I mean, there’s Okay, look, I’m a female, and I have curly hair, so I feel like there’s levels to this question. Like, there’s levels of shower. Okay. I have like a, like a sponge bath situation, that I do. You know they do that to people in the hospital. Yeah, I know that. Like you’re not in the hospital, take a normal bath.

No, but like a, you know, sometimes you’re just in a hurry, but you need to like, make sure that the important parts are clean. Okay. So. Do you need me to help you with that? Nope. So that’s every day. Okay. I, all the important parts get clean. I had no idea you were taking a sponge bath every day. I don’t know what else to call it.

It’s not a sponge bath. You get a bucket with a sponge? [00:13:00] No. Bucket of soapy water? No.

Is that what you did growing up? Yeah. On Sundays we all took a bath in the bucket. Bucket bath with a sponge? Alright. You know that’s where the phrase don’t throw the baby out with the bath water came from. For real. Sure. It is! Okay, I believe you. The baby had to go last. And so then you had to dump the water and they said don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Oh, okay. Alright, I didn’t realize that. Alright. Learning important things here. So sponge bath every day. Yeah, um, and then I do like a Pool shower at some point. At some point, yes. I do like a, like a body shower. Okay. Probably like every, every other day sometimes. Based on this study Every two or three days.

You’re already doing too much. Oh, really? Well, then I do a full shower like twice a week and that involves like doing all of the hair. Okay, so daily showers aren’t necessary and may not have any health benefits according to some experts. Who the experts are doesn’t matter. Doesn’t say. Some experts.

Proponents of less frequent [00:14:00] showers claim that most people take them every day. Or multiple times a day, only because this has become a social norm. What do you think about that? Every day seems like a lot. I don’t. I take, I, at least every other day. You take a shower almost every day. Almost every day, but, but at the, I never skip like more than one day.

Yeah, like if I wake up and I’m running late I won’t get the shower in and sometimes I just forget by the end of the day and I’m tired I go to sleep So I don’t take a shower that day. But then the next day I’ll always take a shower. Yeah Why are we washing? Mostly because we’re afraid somebody else will tell us that we’re smelling environmentalist Danica Feeling though of being dirty like and you know how you just feel like you need a shower at a certain point like I don’t I like that.

So the environmentalist that was quoted in this Environmentalist. So this is not any sort of, um, medical, professional Hold on, we’ll get there. But this, this environmentalist, in an interview with the [00:15:00] BBC, must be like, have some credentials as an environmentalist to be interviewed by the BBC. Okay. Said that, um, he only showers once a month, freshening up with sink washes in between.

See that Sink wash. Sponge bath. First of all, one shower a month? No. Yeah, I’m not comfortable with that number. Come on, no. Like, I understand we should all be more comfortable with our own body odors. So I know right away, well I don’t know, I suppose, but I would guess that this is a man. Did you say? Oh yeah, yeah, this is a man, for sure.

Okay, because, um. Yeah, that’s true. You’re not shaving those legs in a sink, buddy. According to Harvard Health, approximately two thirds of Americans shower every day. Okay. Two thirds. That’s actually more than I would, I would guess. Because you’re also taking into account children who notoriously hate bathing themselves.

That can’t take children, that must be adults. They didn’t, they didn’t specify. The methods [00:16:00] of this, the materials and methods was not. A little ambiguous. It was a little bit ambiguous. So frequent hot showers remove healthy oils and good bacteria from your skin. Yes. So one change, I, cause I’ve heard that too, so one thing I did was I Cold shower.

Uh, no, I don’t take cold showers. That sounds, that’s like something a psychopath does. I’m sorry all of you cold shower likers, but you, uh, we have to be careful around you. You might be Something’s a little off. You might be a serial killer. But I, um, uh, I don’t wash my hair as frequently as I used to. Uh, do you ever wash your hair?

Cause I, my understanding was that you no longer wash your hair at all. You went full no poo. No, I do I do every maybe honestly is like once a month Yeah, not very frequently and my hair is healthy. You don’t believe me. Uh, I mean, I’m looking What I think I like I [00:17:00] I wash it Yeah, you get water on it. You get it wet And you know, I so run your fingers through it Get out of there germ.

I so I think maybe it’s more than once a month I’m gonna people are gonna think I’m absolutely disgusting for saying that I think probably well, how often do you wash your hair twice a week? Okay, maybe I’ll do it twice a week Maybe you can like I don’t know look, I don’t know I feel like every few years it changes you should take a shower every day.

You should not take a shower every day You should wash your hair. You should not wash your hair This is why this is questionably healthful health news. That’s why this segment exists. Our immune systems need a certain amount of stimulation by normal microorganisms, dirt, and other environmental exposures in order to create protective antibodies and immune memory.

Okay, again, this is coming from an environmentalist. Whatever that means. This is one reason why pediatricians and dermatologists [00:18:00] recommend against daily baths for kids. So, washing your child daily can result in poor immune system health? I need to see the data on that to believe it. Yeah. I mean, I can see how that.

That seems like a reasonable hypothesis. Right. Well, this is why I always feed our children off the floor, right? Because any, any, any, you know, deleterious effects of bathing them frequently is counteracted by eating off of questionable surfaces. Yeah. And when they spill something, you rub their face in it and make them look it up.

We’re such good parents. That’s really great. And then the article ends by saying, but it’s a personal decision. So anyway, there’s your questionably helpful health news. Uh, bathe as often as you want. I don’t know. Yeah. Plus like, I mean, aren’t there like different skin types? Like, let’s just, let’s just all be a little smelly together.

I what’s I mean, if everybody does it, I think we get used to it. I don’t love that [00:19:00] plan. Don’t like it. Okay. I know. All right. But I don’t, I also, I don’t know that I endorse it. You know, that we all must cleanse ourselves head to toe every day. Fair enough. Let’s take a break. We’ll come right back with something more profound to say.

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So helpful. Helps with burnout. It just helps you save lives. It’s great. To see a demo, go to precision. com slash KKH. That’s precision spelled with an X instead of an E. So P R X C I S I O N dot com slash KKH.

All right, we are back with some more Glock talk. All [00:20:00] right, we’re going to do why is it like that? Okay. All right. So you’re going to give me something about the health care system, about medicine, about the human body, whatever you want. Mm hmm. And you’re going to ask me, why is it like that? What you got? I have opinions on this one.

Oh, okay. But I want to know, why is it like that? That the healthcare system. is so freaking siloed because supposedly electronic health records were supposed to like help with this issue, right? To like allow physicians of different specialties to be able to communicate with each other better about each patient.

And so in theory, I think sure, that makes sense on paper. In practice, however, it does not seem to be happening because I’ll use myself as an example, just because I don’t want to incriminate anybody else or share, you know, out of turn. I have A chronic issue, right, of this hypermobility. And over the last 10 years or so, I’ve been really trying to figure [00:21:00] it out.

And when I get to the end of that, where I feel like I have finally started to figure it out in retrospect, it wasn’t that complicated. It’s just that all these different people that I had to go to, to figure it out, we’re not talking to each other and not a lot of people know about, you know, hypermobility stuff, so that was a factor too, but like, it would be so much easier if everyone.

was just like up to date on my chart. Like what is the chart for if when you go into your appointment, it’s like you have to explain everything to every person over and over again. And then you fill out the little forms in the waiting room with more information about your history. And then they just ask you the same questions once you get in the room.

Like why are, what’s happening? Why is it like this? The short answer, I think, is capitalism. That’s not what I was expecting. Well, so you think about. So contrast what you just [00:22:00] said and what you described to the VA system. I don’t know the VA VA hospital is on the same electronic health record. I do air quotes for electronic because even though it’s electronic, it’s not like, it’s not sophisticated.

It’s like a glorified word document is what the VA health, it’s CPR. Like a Google doc? CPRS. It’s yeah. It’s very, sophisticated. Basic, but you could be seeing a patient who, you know, 25 years ago went to a VA hospital in San Diego. You’re seeing him in White River Junction, Vermont. And you can easily access the record.

It’s right there, because it’s all one system. So that But do you? Oh yeah, absolutely. You read that whole thing? Well, if you’re, usually you’re looking for specific things. Like, as an ophthalmologist, I’d be looking, okay, this person said they had LASIK, you know, at this VA. hospital, [00:23:00] um, you know, 20 years ago, let me look and see what their eyes were like before LASIK.

Cause that can be helpful sometimes. So yeah, there are definitely situations in certain specialties. I’m not looking at all their health information, but yeah, if I want to know what kind of surgery they had 10, 15 years ago, I have it right there. But outside of that, There, that doesn’t exist for private, you know, other hospitals.

And that’s, I think part of it’s obviously because, you know, we don’t have a nationalized health system. And so you have these big corporations that have wanted to build their own thing. And have their own company, make their own money that’s separate from other. And so they all, you know, capitalism, they’re fighting with each other.

They’re, they’re trying to one up each other. They’re trying to gain market share of hospitals and clinics. And so you’re going to have, you know, a certain percentage of medical practices that go to Epic. And then you have another percentage of [00:24:00] medical practices that go to Cerner and other ones that go to NextGen.

And they’re not built to. To talk to each other. Yeah, and this is why the fax machine still exists Because sometimes the only way to get information from one electronic health record to another is by printing out the freaking thing And faxing it to an office and then they scan it into the chart Which honest to God is what we do in the 21st century in the 20 Yes in the year 2024 that still has to happen sometimes now Interoperability between these, these electronic health records is getting better.

There’s things like Care Everywhere, where you can, you know, log in on your current system, hit, hit this button, and it’s, it, it does connect to other systems. Yeah, but it’s not possible for all electronic health record systems. So yeah, this is one of, uh, [00:25:00] the huge, huge, one of the biggest problems we have.

We’ve got a ton of problems in the US healthcare system, but I totally agree with you. And it’s frustrating for me too, because I’ve got a bunch of different doctors, right? Right. In different hospital systems that use different electronic health record systems. And so, um, I, I, I, I totally agree with you.

And I think it’s just because of the nature of what we’ve built healthcare to be and as a profit centered thing, that you’re going to have these corporations that are, they’re, they’re, they’re trying to build up their market share. They’re trying to make money by providing these electronic health records, which we do need, like, And in the end, electronic health records, that is what needs to happen.

We can’t go back to paper charts, that’s silly. But ideally it would be a one giant system, but that’s never going to happen. Yeah. You know, as long as you have the type of healthcare system that we have. So, uplifting as always. Yes! That’s why it’s like that It’s a good [00:26:00] question though because a lot of people probably you have the same thought I know a lot of people have the same frustration that that that you’re voicing as well Yeah, I think there’s an additional layer to it though, which is just that the specialties themselves are siloed.

Oh, well, yeah I mean, absolutely. So there even if you are on the same system in the same hospital It’s not just the chart. That’s an issue. It’s like Yeah, communication across specialties or even just thinking outside of your own specialty and like being aware of other things. Not that you have to be an expert in everything, obviously that’s not reasonable.

No, you don’t. But ideally, you know, if you do have different specialists because you have a complicated health, you know, issue, then Yeah, you need somebody as the point person, and that’s Yeah, and that somebody, I would hope, is well versed in all these different things, so they can see how it all comes together.

Yeah. You know, these different areas might be interacting with one another. Yeah, and that, I mean, sometimes that’s just a communication [00:27:00] failure, and that’s on the healthcare Yeah. Professionals, the clinicians to, to make sure that they’re communicating appropriately. But I don’t think there’s anything like, in the system to ensure that that’s happening, right?

Or in the medical education to teach you to do that. Like, I think it’s just, Yeah. Up to everybody on their own. I mean, sometimes it takes being a patient and seeing Yeah. You know, how bad it is when you don’t have doctors communicating with each other to, to understand the importance of that, unfortunately, because you do, I mean, as you go through training, obviously, you know, you’re, as an intern, you are coordinating care with different specialties and different types of specialists.

And I guess that’s where you’re supposed to get that, that education. Um, It’s, it’s just hard as a, I mean, it shouldn’t be hard, but even as an, as an ophthalmologist, you know, and we are so separate from the rest of medicine that it’s, um, sometimes that falls by the wayside. It shouldn’t, but you know, [00:28:00] we’re just like in our own little world and we don’t think outside of that world sometimes.

And I think other specialties have the same issue. Yeah, I don’t like that. I want that to change. Fixed it! Oh, okay. Alright, alright. I’ll just design a new system. Real quick. Before the end of this episode. I’ve got like ten minutes left. Um, that was a good one. Why is it like that? I like that, uh, I like that segment.

That’s good. We should keep doing that one. Yeah, I agree because I think when you’re in something every day and it’s just the water that you live in, so to speak, then you don’t remember all the things that are weird and unusual and maybe should change. All right, let’s talk about, uh, let’s do one more thing.

Okay. I thought it might be Helpful to just talk about a creative process. Mm hmm. So we have this live tour coming up Yeah And about to hit the road a lot of the a lot of questions that we get asked or comments are like how do you have? Time to like do this, right? We get that a lot. Yeah, [00:29:00] you know because we got obviously You know, our family, you know, we’re, uh, you know, I’m doing the ophthalmology thing.

And so we’re also, you know, we’ve put together this live show. And so just the process of how we put this together, uh, would you say our creative processes are similar? Um, that’s a good question. My gut instinct is like, my first reaction is no. Not at all, but maybe, but then, but then I kind of think, well, there is a little bit that might overlap.

So. So my, my creative process is I, I write out, I script out everything. Like I want. You go off by yourself. You do, this is a solo activity. I, I am, I’ve never been like an improv type of creator. comedian, an improv type of person. Like even going back to when I was a, you know, a high schooler writing material, I would like [00:30:00] write out word for word my jokes.

I was always afraid of like not knowing what to say or not saying the right thing. And sometimes that’s a detriment, like to, to, to stand up because you, you do need to be able to be fluid and think on your feet a lot. That approach that I have had all my life, and that’s the part of my like perfectionism, right?

I want to, I want to make sure every word is perfect. It, it did hamstring me a little bit, I think, in terms of my, my development as a comedian. I have gotten better at that at this point, but even with writing this live show, like I, I wrote out the entire script. Except for my parts. Except for your parts, right?

So, um, I don’t know if you work the same way. Are you that type of person? Like you, cause I like. You know, and I’ll follow that script, you know, sometimes I’ve gotten better over the years. I think of going off it a little bit, like based on crowd reactions or crowd [00:31:00] responses, I’ll throw in a thing or two here and there, but in general, I’m still like right on script.

But it seems like what I was, so we were going through this when we were creating this live show, I feel like we were butting heads a bit because I was like, Like, I’m writing the script, like, you need to write your parts, and you, like, didn’t want to do it until, like, 12 hours before our first show, basically.

I’m exaggerating, but Well, and it’s, there’s more to it than that, but, go on. No, so, I’m curious, like, what, how does your approach to this, like, differ from that? One of the things that, things that is, uh, left out of that description is my stuff was already written somewhere else. I already knew I’m gonna take this chunk of stuff that I have already written before Mm hmm, and that’s what I’m gonna put in here.

So that’s one thing you’re repurposing content. Of course. I’m a good marketer Or at least I am a marketer. I [00:32:00] Guess it’s objective. So I knew that I already had the work done and you kept stressing about it for some reason That’s what I do And here’s the other thing that I know. You asked if I would follow that process.

No, I would not. But I have learned to live with you and I have learned that there’s no use doing what I would do. I have to adapt to you. Oh. So, because you have very, like, rigid, you’re just, it’s, okay. This is what we were talking about in the performance review of the collaboration. I say this with love and respect and admiration for you, but collaborating is just not a skill set that you have ever had to develop, to a large extent, okay?

And I have. I have worked very collaboratively in my career up until this point, like the whole time. So I have. You know, certain skill sets in that area that you don’t have, just like you have skill [00:33:00] sets in areas that I don’t have, okay? So I know as, I know as the person who, now I’m collaborating with you, I know that I can adapt to you, you can’t adapt to me, at least not yet.

I can learn. You, maybe, but we’re not there yet. So I just let you do your thing. That helps you feel better, right? You do your thing all by yourself in a room, close yourself in there, stress yourself out because that’s the fuel that fires your engine and then you get it done and you can feel some form of relief.

And then I can go in and I can put my parts in and then we can see how they play together and adjust from there. But even the. Like cuz cuz in the show we have back and forth. We have some like live skits that we do together Like even like just practicing that you’re like, yeah, I hate you hate that right you hate practicing Well, it’s I hate doing that with no audience [00:34:00] like to me I feed off of that energy from the audience and And the idea of, like, for me, of doing something for the first time in front of an audience.

Well, it’s not that I’m doing it for the first time. Like, I’ll go, I’ll read over it a bunch of times so it’s like fresh in my head. I’ll, you know, I’ll do, I’ll do that. To, to stand there. You should collaborate with me, though. With microphones. It’s about collaboration. And working together. Yeah, yeah, to do it your way.

Is what you’re saying. I just want you to read lines with me, that’s all. Why don’t you do it my way and let’s get out there and let’s have a little bit of authenticity and improv. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. Okay. All right. So adapt to, um, me adapting to you would be just less preparation. Um, you know, I don’t know if I can do that.

I don’t know if you, uh, it’s been this way for [00:35:00] so long that I don’t know if you’re just, I just don’t know if you’re capable of doing it a different way other than the way that makes sense to you. I mean, I’m already halfway through my life. Let’s just That’s what I’m saying. Let’s just run out the clock here.

That’s what I’m saying. Because you are just such a like independent, like you’re independent to a fault. Like, sometimes that’s a benefit. We’re still not done with the performance review. Okay. No, this is about the collaborative process. It’s hard to collaborate when you want to do everything yourself and you want to control everything that everyone else does too.

Well, you know, you know why it’s hard for me. I mean, it is just, I think that’s, it’s a partly like a physician thing, um, but also I was Glockenflecken by myself for like seven years before we started doing other things that required other people. Well, I was Lady Glockenflecken for five years now. You were.

Yes, you had your content happening. Even going back to residency when I was, uh, you know, at home tweeting and you were like, could you please [00:36:00] stop doing that? Right. Well, look where we are now. Yeah. Yeah. Look where we are Anyway, um, all right. I I appreciate that feedback Yeah, so like you asked how I would I would normally like to have more of a writer’s room approach, you know Okay where people like bounce ideas off of each other and there’s maybe a whiteboard with all sorts of stuff or papers pinned up and you know because for me brainstorming together It’s super energizing and fun and you know, there’s that whole period where there are no bad ideas because we’re not making decisions yet.

We’re just throwing things on the wall and there’s a lot of creativity that happens and a lot of energy and a lot of like ideas that come together from different brains that wouldn’t have materialized if you were just all in your own one brain. So can I do a self reflection? Sure. I feel like I have gotten better at that.

Yeah, you have. Like, I You’re learning, yeah. Because we have, we have had lots of situations with our producers, with, with [00:37:00] our employee, um Where you’ve had to. Well, we’re I mean just that’s the first step is just being open to it, right? Mm hmm, and and I can see how that it can be a really helpful Process like creatively.

Yeah, so I’m getting there. Yeah, I’m getting there Yeah, I think it ultimately for you it all boils down to fear. What? Yeah, I mean, what am I afraid of? Um, failure. I mean, maybe a little bit. Yeah. Fear and control. You feel like the way you see it in your head is the best way. And you are very talented. And I’m afraid someone else is going to tank it.

Yeah. Because I’ve built up this thing by myself and I don’t want it to. No one else can possibly do it as good as you. And like, there’s some truth in that. Like no one can be you, but other people can bring new things to it that take it further than you can take it all by yourself. And I, I, and I, I do recognize that.

Yeah, you do. And I am, I’ve gotten better at, at [00:38:00] embracing that. Yes. I just, maybe not to your standards yet. Why are you being defensive? I’m not, I’m not. I’m just saying like, you know, give me a little, cut me a little slack. I’m not criticizing you. This is another common theme. You asked me a question and I’m answering it and it’s not criticism.

It’s just an answer. Okay. Thank you. You’re welcome. Now we, uh, need some marriage therapy. Let’s, uh, let’s bring our therapist in here. Welcome. No, I don’t know. Shahnti, we’ll have Shahnti do it. I don’t know. Okay. Actually, I don’t know if Shahnti would be a good therapist, or producer, anyway. Um, I don’t know if she is or isn’t.

Alright, well that’s our creative process. I feel like it’s a good one though. Yeah. I think, listen, here’s how we work together and always have is you, you do your thing, I do my thing, we come together and we merge them. It works well. Yeah, it works well. All right. Let’s, um, [00:39:00] let’s take a break and we’ll come right back with a fan story.

Hey, Kristen. Yeah. You know what I have? What? A box full of eyelid mites. Oh, you shouldn’t have. Look at these little guys. Look at their cute little, their cute little, uh, legs and their, and their eyes. Yeah. Look at this. I want you to just be able to experience all of them. Look at that. We got so many. We got so many.

You know what these guys will do? They cause a disease called demodex blepharitis. That doesn’t sound fun. So if you’ve ever had red, itchy, irritated eyelids, it could be because of this. You know, like crusty, flaky buildup on your eyelashes. Yeah, that sounds uncomfortable. No, it’s, it’s, I mean, look, but I mean, they always look really cute though.

Look at the little beady eyes. Well, don’t get freaked out by this. Why not? It’s, it sounds awful. Just get checked out. Oh, that does make more sense. You got it. You got it. Yeah. You got to get checked out for this to find out [00:40:00] more about Demodex blepharitis, you go to eyelidcheck. com that’s E Y E L I D check.

com to get more information about these little, these little guys and Demodex blepharitis.

All right. Let’s take a look at some of our favorite medical stories. We have a story today from Catherine. Catherine says, here’s my crazy medical story, and it includes the most important organ. The I. Ooh. Yeah? You agree with that, right? Uh, um. Yes, you do agree with it. I do. Sure. When my daughter was 21 or 22, she went with her then boyfriend to Boston to go on a weekend trip with his high school friends.

They went up to a resort area on the New Hampshire coast, and of course, went out to the bars. Maybe Portsmouth? New Hampshire coast? I know. I was trying to guess, too. There’s only like this much of New Hampshire that Yeah, they probably What do they call it? There’s like a I’ll guess Portsmouth. I’ll guess Portsmouth.

A very specific word that they use in New Hampshire for The Upper Valley? Nobody’s gonna care. It’s gonna bother me. I’m gonna [00:41:00] have to look it up. Someone’s yelling at their radio right now though. The next morning she went to put in her contacts and they were really uncomfortable. She took them out right away and switched to her glasses.

As the morning went on, her eyes were stinging and the pain became so uncomfortable she could Barely keep her eyes open. She caught a flight back from Boston in the early afternoon. And by the time I picked her up at the airport, she was sobbing, refused to open her eyes. Sounds miserable. Yikes. As we raced to the nearest random chain eye care place, she admitted that, uh, what had really happened.

She took her contacts out. When she was drunk, but instead of squirting lens solution in the case, she put her contacts in makeup remover. Oh! Yikes, she recovered fine. Thank goodness, but I think it was a lesson learned. Oh my god. Yeah Before you start drinking just take the contacts out and wear glasses the rest of the night That is not gonna ever happen.

You know that, right? Oh man, makeup remover [00:42:00] is like acetone, I think. Well, that’s like nail polish remover. Is that a makeup remover also? I’m not sure. A lot of makeup removers are like oil based. Okay, either way, it’s like a bad thing. Yeah, right. Yeah. But typically those types of things that either they’re usually like a weak acid.

Yeah. Like it’s not You know, so it’s, it’s not something that’s going to cause any permanent blindness. Could give you some, you know, nasty corneal abrasions though. So, which sounds like that’s my That’s what I thought I was going to. I thought maybe she had gotten sand in there and scratched up her cornea.

Oh no, this, uh, ugh, yeah. Yowch! That’s rough. I once saw somebody, um, at a party. They were drunk and Seacoast! Seacoast? That’s what they call it? Yes. The Seacoast? Yes. That’s a terrible name for a coast. A sea I’ve never heard of Seacoast. You don’t remember that, yes you have. No. We lived there for five years.

It wasn’t a sea, it was an ocean. That’s what they call it. Give me a break. Shahnti, Google it. That’s offensive. Anyway, I was at a party. I saw someone got drunk, um, and [00:43:00] had Accidentally, on their way home, grabbed the wrong pair of glasses. Someone else’s glasses, but drove home. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Drove home probably wrong prescription in the wrong prescription after having some right not not not a good thing No, so you got hold on to your glove.

Don’t just just just be careful with eye care and drinking All right. It’s very important you guys very important and Honestly, I think I think you should only drink with glasses. I know with contacts. I mean why I stopped there Let’s just tell everyone to drink with safety goggles I like where your head’s at.

I love that. All right. Well, thank you, Catherine, for that, that, uh, story. And, uh, I’m glad that the recovery went okay. Send us your stories, knockknockhighathuman content. com. And that’s it. Thanks for listening, everybody. Hope you enjoyed our, uh, episode of Glock Talk. And I hope you’re, you’re getting a little insight into our marriage.

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Oh, you doubt I can do the rest? No. Uh, I don’t know, maybe try it next time. Well, well, well. You just talked about how you memorize everything. The gauntlet has been thrown, folks. Knock Knock High is a human content production. Hey,

Kristen. Yeah? Weren’t you just talking about how much you hate admin work? Yes, it’s the worst. Yeah, we don’t like it much in medicine either. Yeah, no one does. Fortunately, we have DAX, though. I know, you lucky ducks. Yes, the Nuance Dragon Ambient Experience, or DAX for short. This is AI powered ambient technology That is incredible at reducing admin burden.

Yeah. It helps with your documentation, which is the [00:48:00] worst part. Yeah. It improves the physician patient relationship. We can get back to what we love to do. Which is just taking care of patients. Yeah. Kind of ironic. It’s AI putting the human back into medicine. Exactly. And, uh, DAX is so great. You should ask for it from your company.

Uh, in fact, 80 percent of patients say that their physician is more focused with the DAX copilot. 85 percent of patients. say their physician is more personable and conversational with Dax Copilot. Do they make a home version? To learn more about the Nuance Dragon Ambient Experience or Dax Copilot, visit Nuance.

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