Glauc Talk: Honoring the Legacy of First Descents Founder Ryan O’Donoghue

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Kristin: Will. Hey, what’s up? I’ve been thinking the US healthcare system.

It needs some improvement. 

Will: Yeah, it’s, it’s, there’s room for improvement for 

Kristin: sure. Yeah. It’s a confusing, scary place for everybody involved. 

Will: Absolutely. 

Kristin: Physicians, families, patients, everybody. 

Will: Everybody. And I’ve experienced it from both sides, right. I’m a physician, I’ve also been a patient, so I wanted to use my platform to give people practical education.

Really the only way that I know how. By making, so Dr. Glaucomflecken really fun and super uplifting. Guide to American Healthcare is Out and it’s a free resource that includes all my videos from the 30 Days of Healthcare Series, alongside deeper [00:01:00] explanations, also reliable facts. Emphasis on reliable. Yes.

All right. Uh, uh, figures, uh, numbers, insights into how each of us can fight for a more humane, better healthcare system. I. Also it has jokes. Did you mention the jokes? I did. I jokes. Okay. Yes, definitely jokes. Well, 

Kristin: this guide is great for anyone looking to learn more about US healthcare, but especially if you are experiencing it from the clinician side for the first time.

That’s right. We really hope you’ll check it out. 

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[music]: Knock, knock, high, knock, knock. Hi,

Will: welcome everybody to Knock, knock High with the Glaucomflecken. Over here we [00:02:00] have Lady Glaucomflecken Flecking, also known as Kristin Flanary. 

Kristin: And you’re Dr. Glaucomflecken Flecking, also known as Will Flanary. Thank 

Will: you for joining us on this episode of Glock Talk. Should we get the socks done out of the way?

Just get it, just get it done 

Kristin: out of the way. What do you mean? This is the best part. 

Will: This is the best part. So, uh, just real quick, we got some new merch. We have, we have new merchandise. Um, so if you’re on YouTube watching, we have their, their unicorn socks, 

Kristin: rainbows, and the best parts 

Will: at the top it says Adults are terrible.

So they are, that’s a, which is a quote from one of the pediatrician in, um, in one of, uh. One of my videos. So they’re, and we 

Kristin: got, we got some other merch too. They’re 

Will: pediatrician inspired socks. That’s right. And we also have some ortho, some ortho stickers, 

Kristin: sticker pack. 

Will: The, uh, one of my favorite gags that I ever wrote was the, um, admissions to medicine.

Um, 

Kristin: punch card. Punch 

Will: card. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: So we turned it, so we made one, turned it into a sticker. It’s already got the punches in there, so you know, you, yeah, I guess you could punch it again. Try again. Try to 

Kristin: cash it in, see what happens. 

Will: [00:03:00] And then other stickers. Uh, of ortho bro. 

Kristin: What’s that? Say? 

Will: What up, bro? What up, bro?

And then we have a, a kettlebell too. So anyway, check them out. They’re on our website. Glaucomflecken plug.com/merch/merch. I do like these. They’re the socks. Socks feel very soft. They’re so soft and comfortable, soft. And 

Kristin: they’re just cute and colorful and cheerful. Love them. 

Will: Yeah. And the adults are terrible, is hidden at the top.

If you don’t want your, your patients, if you’re a pediatrician, you don’t want the kids’ parents to see that. You think adults are terrible. 

Kristin: Right. And they’re kind of a crew sock are adults. So it’s, it’s nice, you know, it’s up on your leg. Yeah. 

Will: Are adults terrible? 

Kristin: Some of them, 

Will: I think generally, 

Kristin: I don’t know.

This is getting existential really on a scale 

Will: from like one to 10. One being adults are amazing, 10 being adults are terrible. Where would you put adults? 

Hmm. 

Kristin: Maybe right in the middle. 

Will: Yeah. 

Kristin: Sometimes great. Sometimes awful. Averages out to [00:04:00] a five. 

Will: I think that’s fair. I think that’s fair. All right, so, um, here’s what we’re gonna do today.

Um, first of all, some updates from the, from the family, from the Glaucomflecken household. 

Kristin: Mm-hmm. 

Will: Also, I have some, some healthcare news. And then also we’re gonna, and then we’re gonna play a A game. Okay. Have a game for you. Okay. And I want you to take it seriously. 

Okay. 

Alright. Take it very seriously first though.

We have a newborn. 

Kristin: Yeah. Well, five, five of them 

Will: we have five. We have a dog that gave birth to puppies. 

Kristin: Yeah. And we didn’t realize she was pregnant until 

Will: Yes. 

Kristin: Like. A week ago. It 

Will: was a whoopsy do. Whoopsy do. Um, but, uh, puppies are something that your mom has dealt with in the past, so she knows exactly what to do.

Oh, yeah. And the puppies are healthy, healthy and happy. And they’re, yes, they’re Australian shepherd puppies, and they are, uh, little potatoes. 

Kristin: They’re all cute. 

Will: They’re just [00:05:00] like, like, they look like a Yukon gold. If it was black and white. 

Kristin: More of a ruit. Is it a, you know, 

Will: they’re not as big though. Yeah, 

Kristin: I think they are, they’re about, they’re about the size of a rested potato.

About the same size. Yeah. Yeah, I’d say so. I’ll have to go out and take a picture and post it on our Patreon. So very, I, people can see they’re very cute 

Will: what type of potato these little potatoes are. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: Um, but yeah, they are very cute. Uh, incredibly small. Literally, he’s so tiny. Just, you know, hold it in your hair and 

Kristin: they make these little grunts and yeah, squeaks, you know, like a real human newborn does also.

It’s very cute. 

Will: Super cute. And, uh, we will be finding warm, loving homes. New for them, for all of them. We’ll be finding old enough. Absolutely. I think they, they keep them. Your mom likes to keep the puppies with. Mom. The mom, yeah. For a couple months I think. 

Kristin: Oh, yeah. I don’t know. 

Will: Whatever. Whatever the right amount is.

Yeah. That’s what she does. So she knows 

Kristin: all the stuff. I don’t know, 

Will: but the kids are very [00:06:00] excited and, uh, the other dogs are kind of going crazy. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: Because, and, uh, very protective over her little puppies. 

Kristin: She is, yes. She’s a good mama. She pays close attention to them and she will, 

Will: we had bite you if you get in there and she 

Kristin: doesn’t want you there.

Will: Right. We had like a, an. A person that was unfamiliar with her. One 

Kristin: of our friends came here, one of our friends came 

Will: over and, um, the, the, the, the mama dog mm-hmm. Knew immediately that this was not someone she knew and was giving her the business, 

Kristin: giving her the side eye barking at her. That’s the side.

She did like a snap. Like she bit 

Will: like, yeah. So anyway, that’s very, uh, uh, which you can understand. See, 

Kristin: it’s the mama instincts. Oh yeah. I got ’em. 

Will: Yeah. How many, uh, people did you bite whenever they came over? Over just a few. Yeah, 

Kristin: but they deserved it 

Will: whenever we had our kids. I feel a little, um, snarls. A little bit of snarling.

Kristin: No. Thankfully I didn’t have to fend anyone off. 

Will: Babies. Uh, babies [00:07:00] grunt human babies grunt. I know too. 

Kristin: Yeah. It’s the same. It’s very similar. Really? They’re not that different. 

Will: They don’t cry as much. 

Kristin: These ones have tails. 

Will: They, it’s true. They do have tails. They’re multicolored. So, um, very exciting times.

Yeah. Alright, so, um, technically how many dogs do we have right now on our, oh gosh. Property here we have five, 

10. 10, 10 dogs? 11. 

11. No. 10. 

Kristin: Well,

Will: five. 

Kristin: One of those dogs had five dogs. 

Will: Oh gosh. 

Kristin: And then we have a dog 

Will: and then Milo. 

Kristin: Yep. I love it. 

Will: Okay. So anyway, that’s what we’re dealing with. And 

Kristin: don’t forget the 3.5 Cats 

Will: and I, we have a half cat. 

Kristin: Well, there’s a stray that has adopted us. 

Will: That’s right. 

Kristin: [00:08:00] And we have decided if this cat is going to be around now that we have cats.

Then it will need to be, um, you know, wormed and vaccinated. 

Will: Now. Now the good news, everybody listening are all pet lovers, is they have plenty of space. Yes. They’ve got lots of space to run around and have fun and be free. 

Kristin: Yeah. And they’re the good little mouse hunters, which I appreciate. Yes. 

Will: Yeah, that’s, um, because we have a barn.

There’s a barn and, um, so, uh, you know, barn cats are a good thing. Yeah. I’ve learned. 

Kristin: Mm-hmm. 

Will: How many barn have you had in your life? 

Kristin: Uh, well this is my first proper barn. 

Will: Yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah. 

Kristin: But I did always just live out in the country, and so 

Will: because adopted so many pets. 

Kristin: Oh my gosh. 

Will: They’d come in and you’re into your life for a year at a time and then 

Kristin: get run over.

Will: It happens. Um, 

Kristin: oh yeah. I have some pretty dogs, cats, pretty 

Will: cows. 

Kristin: Bad pet stories actually. What was the 

Will: name? What was the name of the, the cow [00:09:00] baby. Yeah, you had a pet cow named baby. 

Kristin: Yeah, we kept her in the front yard. I say we, this is all my mother. 

Will: So your parents, Kristin’s parents are, have been in the dairy industry for a long time, so they’ve, yeah, they started, they grew up on farms.

They, they started out as 

Kristin: ranchers, right? They, well, my mom did, grew up on farm and they started out as ranchers when they were first married and then. My dad went to college for an agribusiness degree and they ended up in the dairy industry for a long time. Um, and they just have always liked animals and agriculture and things like that.

I don’t know how I came out of them 

Will: and the animals like them because they just show up. I. 

Kristin: Yeah. And 

Will: then all of a sudden we own them 

Kristin: uhhuh. 

Will: So anyway, 

Kristin: it’s like there’s some sort of siren song that my mother puts out and it just attracts, 

Will: do we know how to turn that off? 

Kristin: That I haven’t figured it out yet.

Can you you 

Will: find the switch, please? It’s been looking for 40 years. It’s like the, the meme. There’s just too many slices of the Yeah. The pizza. Too many. That’s too many slices. That’s too many dogs. Enough. Alright, [00:10:00] well, um, healthcare news. 

Kristin: Okay. 

Will: Um, some. There’s some depressing news. Yeah. All right. This is sad news just because, uh, um, this is an organization I really care about.

So this is, um, uh, first descent. Mm-hmm. Uh, those of you who are, I’m, I’m sure probably most of you’re probably aware of my history with testicular cancer. Um, and after my second mm-hmm. Bout, uh, Kristin was being the thoughtful, wonderful wife that she is. Um. Decided that I needed some help. I needed to try to find other people.

I knew you 

Kristin: wouldn’t talk to anybody. I was out 

Will: out. So, yeah, I to figure out, take us through out the thought process of finding about, out about this company, this organization. Well, 

Kristin: I was actually in the waiting room during your surgery, 

Will: my second orchiectomy. 

Kristin: Mm-hmm. And it was taking longer than expected.

And, you know, it all, it, they’d had a minor complication. It all turned out fine. But [00:11:00] I was in there for a long time. And by the way, 

Will: can I, real quick? Yeah. Can I just, I ended that complication. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: Can I tell you my experience 

Kristin: Okay. 

Will: With being told about that? 

Kristin: Okay. 

Will: So I’m in post-op and the, I, there was a resident, it was a teaching hospital at Dartmouth.

And, and, um, well, no, this was Iowa. This is Iowa. It was, so there was this teaching hospital and they both are, I guess the, the young, you know, second year resident or whatever that was working on me. Uh, came in after the surgery and says, I need to tell you something that happened. And I, I’m like, like, what did they accidentally like, cut off the wrong body part?

Like, what, what on earth happened? And he was like, we, there’s a nerve. You’re gonna have some numbness, uh, on your inner thigh. 

Kristin: Mm-hmm. 

Will: That was it. They, 

Kristin: they cut a nerve, I think. Yeah. 

Will: And I was like, oh, that. 

Kristin: They nicked it. 

Will: That’s it. That like that? Oh, thank God. I thought like, I don’t know. It’s not like they could cut the wrong ball off because I didn’t only had one at that point.

Right, but you had 

Kristin: given your first one to Dartmouth. [00:12:00] That’s why you got confused. There’s 

Will: Right. It’s like, what on? Just so it’s kind just like my stomach dropped and he was like, that was it Like a little numbness on man thigh. I can handle that. 

Kristin: Did that ever resolve? I still, or do you still have it? I still, I still have it, yeah.

Will: Yeah, because that was 

Kristin: one of the questions is it might go away. 

Will: Yeah. You 

Kristin: know, you over 

Will: time. But no, I’ve got numbness there. I’ve got numb where I, I had ACL surgery, so I also have a patch of numbness on my lower leg, so it’s weird. Nerves are strange. 

Kristin: They’re, 

Will: so, anyway, I could get a tattoo on that spot in my inner thigh.

Kristin: Oh. And 

Will: you, I wouldn’t even feel it. Feel 

Kristin: it. That’s a good idea. 

Will: I, I might feel it if it’s, it goes deeper though. ’cause like if you’re getting to the dermis right? You dunno how 

Kristin: far that nerve intubates. Yeah. Yeah. And it, it does Tattoos are like below, they’re in like the lowest level, aren’t they? I’m really speaking on my depth.

Will: Yeah. Dermis. I think it’s in the dermis, but it’s, it’s also a very difficult place for a tattoo artist to get to. Would be my inner thigh. 

Kristin: Well, I can just, you know, prop you up in certain ways. 

Will: Just, [00:13:00] just like I, like, I like I’m at the urologist office. What if you got 

Kristin: a tattoo of your missing testicles on your inner thigh?

No. You don’t like that idea? 

Will: I like, what’s the point? I don’t like. Just 

Kristin: so you don’t have to miss them. 

Will: They’re right there. I don’t, I don’t miss them. They betrayed me. I don’t miss them. Anyway, get back to, okay. How you find out about first descent. 

Kristin: Yeah, so I was in the waiting room and I knew you were having a hard time.

I mean, anytime you get a cancer diagnosis, that is a hard time. Mm-hmm. This one was a particularly hard time because it was just a three years after the first one. We were young and then we were talking about all sorts of ramifications, you know, infertility and hormones, uh, replacement therapy and all sorts of stuff.

And so I knew it was gonna be hard, but I also know you well enough to know that you will not. Say a word to anyone. Mm-hmm. Yep. About any feeling you might have. 

Will: Mm-hmm. 

Kristin: So I was looking for just ways to [00:14:00] find some support for you that did not involve, you know, group therapy or something. Um, and so I found first descent just through like a Google search, Google searching.

Yeah. Um, and I was like, oh, this is perfect. Because it was an organization that takes young adult. Um, cancer patients and survivors, as long as you have medical clearance, takes you on outdoor adventures because the idea is when you’re a young adult with cancer, it does, it feels like your body betrayed you and it, you know, you don’t know how much you can trust your body anymore, and you feel like you’ve lost this, you know?

[music]: Mm-hmm. 

Kristin: I don’t know, sense of health, sense of being able to do things, and so they take them on outdoor adventures to regain some confidence in. Your body again. And then also you are surrounded by other cancer patients and survivors. And so just sort of naturally you’ll talk about things, [00:15:00] but there’s no like forced talking mm-hmm.

Or therapy or anything like that. Um, and so I know you like outdoor adventures and I know that you wouldn’t wanna talk, so I was like, this is it. 

Will: And since then I’ve done numerous fundraisers for first descents. Mm-hmm. I know we’ve raised probably close to $150,000 over the years. Yeah. Just through social media.

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: Um, and, and, uh, it’s a great organization because a lot of attention and, and cancer is given to, to, to kids 

Kristin: mm-hmm. 

Will: And older adults. Mm-hmm. And there’s just. This big group right in the middle that’s just kind of feels left out and you feel very isolated. 

Kristin: Well, there’s just not a, there aren’t resources.

Will: Yeah. And so this is one of the few organizations that really focuses on that age group. Yeah. You know, 18 to, to 40 basically. And so, um, it was great. I’ve met wonderful people. I’ve done two different trips with them. Mm-hmm. And, um, uh, that a lot of, and [00:16:00] so the reason we’re talking about first descents is because the CEO, uh, died.

Uh, uh, first Descents Ryan o Donahue. You can see it. It’s, you know, the information’s out there, um, if you wanna read up on it, but, uh, wonderful guy. Uh, 

Kristin: he was only 46. Only 46. And very sad, uh, 

Will: uh, the news is he, he took his own life and, uh, long history of. Of, uh, mental health issues, which is not a secret.

You know, I’m not telling you anything that, that’s not already out there on the internet right now. Um, the, in fact, the, the first ascent company, they’re the ones that put this information out there. Mm-hmm. And, and it’s, I, I think, you know, it’s, it’s incredibly sad, obviously, and we feel for their family, uh, his family and, and the whole first descent community because, uh, the people that work at first descent, they’re, they’re really, they’re mission oriented, you know?

Yeah. They’re. They’re, they’re wanting to help this group of, of young people. And, um, and so I have a tremendous amount of appreciation for everybody at first [00:17:00] sense. I’ve been able to meet some of them over the years and, um, it just a, it’s a fantastic group of people and, you know, mental health struggles are something that, that community is.

A lot of people in that community deal with. Yeah. You know, and so, um, I mean, 

Kristin: it’s really core to their mission. Yeah. It’s a, it’s about helping you get through the mental health piece of cancer. 

Will: Yeah. So I was, I was a very sad, and, you know, people have been telling stories on, on the first since, you know, Facebook page.

Mm-hmm. And it’s, it’s just a, a, a great quality. Organization full of wonderful people. That does really good work. I am, as Kristin mentioned, I, I don’t talk to people about my feelings very often. Like it’s, it’s something I’m not good at. Um, that doing a trip with this organization, it was the first time I really felt, uh, I could open up and, and, um, and talk to people that had similar experiences that were similar to mine and, uh, and it didn’t feel forced.

Yeah. Which is important, 

Kristin: [00:18:00] right. 

Will: I just, I got, I was tricked into talking about my feelings. 

Kristin: I know. See, I had to do something. 

Will: Um, I did a kayaking trip in Oregon. That was the first one. Mm-hmm. And then, um, uh, a group of us went over to Ireland to do lots of hiking and 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: And, uh, kayaking. Um, a few years back, it was pre pandemic, like 2019, the last things that I did before the pandemic.

Um, and, uh, over the years, some people I’ve been on trips with have died and Yeah. And it’s, um. But that support network is always there for these people. 

Kristin: Right. 

Will: Uh, and so, uh, yep. We feel for everybody at the first Ascents community. 

Kristin: Maybe we can put a link to, um, how you can 

Will: Yeah, you can donate, put link into 

Kristin: our fundraiser on the Absolutely, yeah.

Will: We can, we can certainly share that. Just donating anything to the first Ascents, um, uh, organization, uh, to provide those. Those lifesaving outdoor experiences, um, uh, is, uh, would be a great gift. And so, uh, yeah, let’s take a break. [00:19:00] We’ll come right back.

Kristin: So Will, 

Will: yeah. 

Kristin: You’re always teaching me things about Dedex, my two little friends there. Yeah. Let’s switch things up a bit. 

Will: Okay. How 

Kristin: about I ask you a couple questions to see how much you really know? 

Will: Go for it. 

Kristin: Okay. Let’s do it. What are the only two main species of demodex mites found in humans? 

Will: Oh, type one and type two.

Kristin: Hmm. Gotcha. On that one? Mm-hmm. Demodex follicular. Okay. Which are found in the eyelash follicles. And demodex brevis, which are found in the meibomian glands. 

Will: Impressive. Alright. Next question. 

Kristin: Why do people with blepharitis often feel itchy eyelids? First thing in the morning. 

Will: Ah, I know this because I use it to gross you out.

Dex mites avoid light and they come out mostly at night to mate and move between your eyelash follicles. So many people will wake up with that itchy, irritated feeling along their eyelids. So gross. [00:20:00] I’m surprised you even brought that up. I know, 

Kristin: I know. I’m just trying to get used to these mites since Dedex blepharitis is such a common disease and we keep talking about it.

Will: Well, that’s a big step, and we know there’s a prescription eye drop available to treat Dedex Blepharitis. I. 

Kristin: A treatment makes me feel much more comfortable about this topic. 

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Kristin: Yeah. My new cozy Earth bamboo sheets. 

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Kristin: That’s why I was having you put them on. They’re my new favorite summer sheets.

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Kristin: They’re 

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So more, uh, positive news, uh, is that, um, uh, UnitedHealthcare is getting, um, investigated for another thing. 

Kristin: Oh, that is positive. 

Will: That’s good. It’s like, well, what? I mean, 

Kristin: it’s not positive that they did the thing that’s, you know, but 

Will: this good, at 

Kristin: least they’re being investigated 

Will: this time. It’s Medicare fraud.

Kristin: Uhhuh. Have we not already talked about this? Is it a new one? 

Will: You know what, it’s hard to keep track. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: Uh, and, 

Kristin: and I don’t know what we’ve talked about separately. Yeah. I don’t know. And what we talked about on the podcast, we 

Will: don’t need to go into the details. Yeah. It’s just like that was another, another bit of healthcare news for you.

Yeah. It’s just, you know, it’s a nice [00:22:00] little nice little thing. I made a video, um, about it, a skit with Timothy recently. Yeah. And, um, a lot of it’s people are getting so creative on the comment section. I, I got a lot of, uh, comments on TikTok about Mario Kart. 

Kristin: Because of Luigi. Yeah. 

Will: I, at first, ’cause my, my, I have a 40-year-old brain now.

Yeah. With a 39 and a half year old brain. So I didn’t, like, my synapses weren’t, weren’t firing quite right. And I was like, what the hell are people talking? Like, why is, I was like, oh, oh yes, yes, Luigi. Mm-hmm. Um, so anyway, 

Kristin: yeah, that’s happening. The saga continues 

Will: and you.

I, this, this irritates me, is that I, I always get some comments of like, doesn’t this guy hate Trump? Aren’t you gonna give Trump credit for, for investigating? 

Kristin: Oh, 

Will: United Healthcare, that kind of thing. 

Kristin: Right? 

Will: And, and it’s irritating. [00:23:00] Like that kind of, it’s like this kind of like, oh, you know, you gotta be consistent.

Like I am consistent because yeah, I don’t. One thing that doesn’t matter with regard to who the president is and no, like I could disagree with Trump on just about everything he does, but, um, my, I have, I’ve always, this has been something that I have, I have always been consistent with. I will always support any kind of legislation or change to healthcare system that is, uh, is advantageous to patients.

Mm-hmm. 

And physicians. Right. 

Like that. I, I don’t, I don’t care who’s president, 

right? 

Like, I don’t care which president it is, that, that tries to like, reign in PBMs and disrupt vertical integration and reforms prior author. It doesn’t, I don’t give a shit, 

Kristin: right? 

Will: Like it just needs to happen. I am always on the side of patients what improves patient care and what improves the, the lives of physicians.

Um, and so [00:24:00] that’s, that’s kind of where I am at. 

Kristin: Yeah. It’ll be interesting to see how that investigation shakes out. 

Will: Um, more let’s, what else can we investigate UnitedHealthcare about? Let’s, let’s just, I’m 

Kristin: sure there’s so many things bring on, there’s 

Will: class action lawsuits going, you just a grab bag at this point.

There’s ooh, it’s, it’s fantastic. Um, so yeah, let’s, let’s, let’s keep up. Keep it up. All right. I have a game. 

Kristin: Okay. 

Will: You ready? So, um, you know, we’ve talked about OnlyFans with regard to Uhhuh, our, my characters. Okay. Right. We, we addressed that last week. Um, I thought what we could do is, uh, play a game called, uh, swipe right or Left.

Kristin: Oh. Oh no. I always get these confused because we were predating apps. 

Will: Swipe right means you accept like you want to, you find that person interesting and at, and you want to go on a date with. 

Okay. 

Swiping left is you, you’re done with that. 

Okay. 

Trash. You’re, it’s trash. You’re [00:25:00] trashing Delete. Yeah. Delete outta my life forever.

Swipe right. Good. Swipe left bad. Got it. 

Kristin: Okay. I think it’d be better if I ask you these questions. 

Will: Why? 

Kristin: Because 

Will: what can I date myself? 

Kristin: It’s your, it’s your character. I you to put 

Will: yourself. No, I want you to put yourself in the mindset of someone who’s single. It’s been a while. 

Yeah. 

All right. You know these characters, you know all of them.

Mm-hmm. 

So if, if you’re on a dating app, we’ll say Tinder since we’re millennials. 

Kristin: Is that still a thing? 

Will: I don’t know if it’s still a thing. What’s the hinge? What are the ones now? 

Kristin: I don’t know. 

Will: There’s, uh, the only ones I hear being mentioned on social media. I don’t even know what that means. Yeah. And, and one of my character, I’m gonna give you the name of the character.

Their profile comes up. 

Mm-hmm. 

Are you 

swiping right? Are you swiping left? Okay. Ready? I’m [00:26:00] ready. Alright, let’s start off with a bang. Ortho, right? Hmm. Let’s start a 

Kristin: secret. I like ortho. 

Will: Big fan of ortho. 

Kristin: Yeah, because he’s actually very smart and kind. 

Will: What if on his profile he has, um, photos of himself flexing at the gym?

That 

Kristin: would be a turnoff. I don’t, it would, it might make, if all you’re doing is swiping based on first impression that might. End up making me swipe up. That’s, 

Will: that’s kind of what the deal is. I know, with these dating apps, right? Yeah. I mean you have a little bit more in depth knowledge about who these people are, but I really Right.

You know, if so, well 

Kristin: then you have to tell me what the profile picture looks like. So message, because that’s the only way I would What 

Will: if Ortho was just like giving a nice smile, but he is holding a femur. 

Kristin: Okay, I’ve got questions. 

Will: Yeah. 

Kristin: But 

Will: you alright with that? I’m curious. Okay. Alright. Inside your curiosity, but 

Kristin: yeah.

All 

Will: right. All right. How about, um, uh, the pediatrician? 

Kristin: Uh, 

Will: probably Right? 

Yeah. 

Okay. Seems like a nice, nice person. [00:27:00] Emergency medicine. Uh, 

Kristin: I mean, I assume that emergency medicine would be talking all about outdoor 

Will: mm-hmm. 

Kristin: Adventuring and such. That’s probably like, like first date is not a 

Will: great, so first date’s gonna be, um, windsurfing.

Kristin: Yeah. Like, that’s no left. I am an inside kid. I don’t think we’d get along. 

Will: All right. All right. So fair. Um, so no emergency medicine. What if he let you wear his helmet? 

Kristin: No, I don’t care about that. Not, 

Will: not interested? 

Kristin: Mm-hmm. 

Will: Okay. Uh, let’s 

see. How about, um, radiology is, Hmm? NightOwl. 

Likes to, you know, watch movies.

What’s his profile? Tell me what with the lights off?

Uh, kind of grumpy during the day, not a morning person. Mm-hmm. 

Kristin: I don’t know. [00:28:00] I feel, I feel like there wouldn’t be a lot on the profile. Like, like he’s just very 

Will: guy’s loose. He’s wearing sunglasses. 

Kristin: Yeah. I probably past then, because it’s like, how do I get to know you? Not understood. 

Will: Yeah. Honestly, I think you need someone who’s a morning person.

In your life? Because I’m 

Kristin: not, yeah. You know what I used to be? That’s yet another thing that has changed. Kidding me. Over time I, no. 

Will: What was the other thing we were talking about that we used to be? Oh, punctual. Punctual. You said you used to be punctual, which I had a great 

Kristin: memory. I 

Will: very much disagree with.

There’s no way you’ve ever been punctual. 

Kristin: You didn’t know me when I was punctual. Punctual. What did I just say? 

Will: Pun? Punctual. Punctual. Punctual. Functional. Functional. Functional. Functional. Functional. Functional. Alright, so you, you, let’s keep track. 

Kristin: You can ask my mother. We’ll talk later. Used to be punctual.

Yeah. You 

Will: used to be. You used to have a good memory. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: And you used to be a morning person. Yeah. That is the hardest to believe. Mm-hmm. There’s no way, well, 

Kristin: you used to have straight hair. I mean, that’s things change. That’s, that’s 

Will: physiologic. I can’t help that. 

Kristin: Some of that stuff is probably physiologic.

Will: So [00:29:00] you’re telling me when you were like, what a teenager, 

Kristin: what 

Will: you used to like, just get up No problem. First thing in the morning. It was 

Kristin: before. Before teenage hood. 

Will: Okay. 

Kristin: Yeah. And then, you know, puberty hits and, but that doesn’t count why kids, I can remember 

Will: all kids are mourning, kids are always, I don’t 

Kristin: don’t think that’s true.

That is 

Will: universally the case. 

Kristin: I’m not talking about when I was like four. No, I know. Like all the way up until like 

Will: prepubescent 12 prepubescent kids. Like that’s like the running. No, 

Kristin: but it’s different. Okay. Like we have a kid like this and you can see the difference between our two kids. I would get very.

I just wanted to go to bed at night. Like once it passed a certain time, that was pretty early, right? I would beg to be put to bed if I was still awake. 

Will: Okay. 

Kristin: And then first thing in the morning, I would wake up and I would feel great and I would have all sorts of energy. 

Will: Okay. 

Kristin: Now it’s kind of the opposite.

I can stay up all [00:30:00] night and it’s really hard to get bed.

Will: Most of your life you’ve been. 

Kristin: For my adult life. Yeah. 

Will: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Like, okay. Alright. Alright. So no on radiology. Uh, how about, um, how about pathology? So, lemme tell you what the profile is. You know, wearing a pathology slide is a T-shirt. Mm-hmm. Um, a nice little h and e stain, not that you have to know what that is.

Um, holding Tabitha. 

Kristin: Okay. And so I’m, I’m, I’m seeing that this person is a scientist, so that’s. Cool. 

Will: They’re scientist. Um, I’m a nerd. During, in their profile, they refer to their microscope as a, a person. They anthropomorphize the microscope in the profile. 

Kristin: I would probably, here’s what I think about pathology.

Will: Like I would love to, to show you, or I would love to have Tabitha show you what she can do. 

Kristin: Okay. This is what I would think at first, I would think, okay, this is just, this is like a. [00:31:00] Quirky, but you know, per, but he looks friendly. Mm-hmm. Big old smile. Got clearly like science. I like science. 

[music]: Yeah. 

Kristin: So I would probably swipe right only to find out later, like maybe date three or something that it, um, he’s a psychopath.

Oh. 

Will: I think date one. You open the passenger. Oh, maybe. So you’ve opened the passenger side door and Tabitha is strapped in. 

Kristin: Yeah. If he starts talking to Tabitha. Like if Tabitha comes along for the date. 

Will: So that’s a, and he 

Kristin: like spoon feeds her. 

Will: Well, it’s, Tabitha obviously doesn’t have a mouse 

Kristin: wipes her little lenses.

Will: All right, so, so a swipe right, but mistake, yes. No second date. 

Kristin: Right. 

Will: Okay. 

Kristin: Also slightly concerned about being murdered. Might need to change my number ’cause it’s 

Will: a pathologist and they like 

Kristin: No, just that personality [00:32:00] to see the inside of your anatomy seems like a weirdo. 

Will: Okay. 

Kristin: So, alright. 

Will: Fair. Um, how about, uh, um, 

sure.

Swipe right. 

Good. Because I think Timothy is most like me. 

Oh, they’re all you. 

Some of them are less like me. 

Uh, which character 

is the least like me as a person? 

Hmm. Probably either ortho or pediatrician. 

Ortho, not because, ’cause we’re, I mean, we’re both very strong physically. 

Sure.

Just the aloof personality. 

Kristin: Um, those, those people are, yeah. Warm and friendly and happy a lot. 

Will: All right. I’m so sorry. I asked, uh, how about like, uh, the nephrologist. 

Kristin: I, you know, I don’t know much about the nephrologist. It’s been a long T All I know is that there’s that salt belt. [00:33:00] That’d be probably a turnoff.

So I’d have to go left. 

Will: Okay, we’ll go left there. 

Kristin: But I like, he doesn’t have a personality, 

Will: the surgeon. 

Kristin: Oh, left. 

Will: Yeah. You’re not 

the, no, no. How about anesthesia? Um.

Likes, uh, playing games on his phone. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: Um, has a job where, you know, 99% boredom, 1% sheer panic. Mm-hmm. Challenge. 

Kristin: Mm-hmm. 

Will: Uh, could save your life in any kind of situation. 

Kristin: Right. And he’s gotta be very smart, so. Mm-hmm. 

Will: That’s 

Kristin: a plus. I guess I would swipe right. 

Will: Okay. 

Kristin: We’ll see how it goes. 

Will: Likes to sit down.

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: So less of a, you know, emergency medicine style. Right. You know, might be more 

Kristin: of an indoor kid like myself. 

Will: It’s possible. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: All right. Family medicine. 

Kristin: Oh, I, I just want to mother family medicine. Not lot 

Will: romantic. No, I just [00:34:00] wanna feeling, 

Kristin: tell him he’ll be okay. Yeah. Give him a cup of hot cocoa. 

Will: Poor family medicine.

Kristin: know. 

Will: Can’t even find love. Geez. 

Kristin: I just think that he’s got other things that he’s focusing on right now. Don’t put 

Will: words in family medicine’s, mouth. 

Kristin: That’s what I would, I mean, he just seems like he’s got a lot going on. He’s pretty busy. He may not have room for something new at this moment. 

Will: Okay, that’s fair.

Barmy Banks, 

Kristin: oh, pass swipe left. 

Will: I mean, what if he’s got like a Ferrari, 

Kristin: I don’t care. 

Will: Or a private jet? I drive a 

Kristin: Chrysler Pacifica like.

Will: You did, you started dating me at that time. I was driving. Was that, was I, was I already driving the toaster? 

Kristin: No, it was your little truck. Truck. Your little ranger. 

Will: Yeah. I had like a little B 2300 Ford Ranger type thing. 

Kristin: Yep. 

Will: Tiny little truck. I love that. Truck. Very small. Had the, uh, that Oh, that air conditioning, that was, that was cold.

Like the coldest air conditioning you’ve ever It was great in [00:35:00] Texas. Yeah. Oh, it was awesome. But that traded in for the, um, the toaster. 

Kristin: Yeah, the Honda Element, 

Will: RIP. Still see him every now and then on the road. Love that car. Fantastic 

Kristin: car. Ugh. Hated that that car is contributed to my neck surgery. 

Will: What if you had seen me on a dating app and I was posing next to my Honda element?

I was like leaning on it. Arms crossed at 

a, like a little smirk. 

Yes. 

No, no, no. Everything you’re 

Kristin: doing right now is.

Will: I’m so glad I’m not dating right now. 

Kristin: Oh, you know, know how hard it would be. I know. Like, 

Will: I honestly it, like it, 

Kristin: I feel bad for people. Uh, 

Will: it, 

Kristin: I, well, I know we don’t know. So how can, can we judge? Like just, we only know one way. 

Will: I mean, obviously like you hear all the. Horror stories, horror stories on social media.

So, but I also know of a lot 

Kristin: of people who have wonderful relationships. [00:36:00] That’s true. That met on dating apps. So 

Will: I can think of like three of my, of our friends off the top of my head. It’s really common. That have, that are married after meeting on social media. My, 

Kristin: I have, I have one, maybe two brothers. 

Will: So I think, I think we’re just biased.

Kristin: Yeah. ’cause we didn’t, 

Will: it because of what we see on social media. Yeah. We didn’t 

Kristin: have, we were not in that world ever. 

Will: So I think we can safely come to the conclusion that, uh, dating on social media is perfect. 

Kristin: I, I don’t think that’s the conclusion to, come’s to Let’s move on. 

Will: How about, uh, let’s see, any other characters?

Are there any characters I missed that you have a, a, a particular affinity for? Well, we 

Kristin: didn’t ask about the psychiatrist. Not I an affinity the 

Will: psychiatrist. Yeah. I think I, that’d scare you off. 

Kristin: I think I’d swipe left 

Will: like too. Could, could psychoanalyze you too easily 

Kristin: and just like. The outdated clothing and the smugness.

Will: You’re not a fan? 

Kristin: No, not for a romantic relationship. 

Will: People, oh, people will be upset if I don’t [00:37:00] mention, uh, the 

Kristin: Jonathan. 

Will: Jonathan. Oh, let’s take a break and get.

Hey Kristin. Yeah. Why did we not get life insurance sooner? 

Kristin: I don’t know, but it’s a decision. I regret. What was 

Will: I like, did I think I was gonna live forever? 

Kristin: Apparently. I think we just didn’t really know about it. Didn’t 

Will: think about it. Yeah. You know, it’s, it’s, it’s never too early to get life insurance.

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All right, a few more. Uh, alright, let’s talk about Jonathan. 

Okay. 

Um, doesn’t say much. 

Mm-hmm. 

You know, has kind of a, what do you think of his face Is it does, would that bother you to see that in a picture? I feel like that’s an immediate swipe left. 

Kristin: Yeah. Because it’s very similar to the pathologist in that.

I am not sure that I am 

Will: safe. 

He’s always there to help though. 

Yeah. But might 

not be human. 

Right. 

Okay. 

Kristin: Might just be a robot. Gotcha. Also, the look out of context would just, 

Will: yeah. 

Kristin: It’s not normal. That would scare somebody off. 

Will: All right. Um, [00:39:00] neurology. Hmm. Got the tall Oh, I’m, I’m. You’re 

thinking about it? No, I 

Kristin: was trying to remember between neurology and neurosurgery and like there’s a, there’s two or three neuro ones that you’ve done.

So the hair. The hair one. The hair one passed.

Will: I was, I was about to be very shocked that you consider for a minute. I was thinking of the 

Kristin: neurosurgeon. I was like, I don’t know anything about the neurosurgeon. No neurology. I don’t think there’s any dimension on which we are compatible. 

Will: What? I don’t know what kind of person would, would find neuro neurology.

Kristin: Another neurologist perhaps. 

Will: Do you think they’re, I kinda attract similar, 

Kristin: maybe 

Will: similar people 

Kristin: or just an extreme opposite. What would be the opposite 

Will: of 

Kristin: maybe a pediatrician? 

Will: Yeah, because they, I would say pediatrician might be, yeah, in terms of personality for sure. 

Kristin: Right. 

Will: Yeah. [00:40:00] I think we covered all of them.

Kristin: Is that it? Do we do it? 

Will: I, I have a, I’m sure I have other characters I’m not thinking of, but 

Kristin: let us know what we’ve missed everybody. So, 

Will: so I think you swiped left on 

Kristin: most, 

Will: most of them, 

Kristin: which shows that I am a sane, healthy person because your characters are extreme exaggerations of problematic stereotypes.

So, 

Will: oh, bill the resident, 

Kristin: oh. I don’t think I can take that on at this time. No time. 

Will: Yeah. There’s no time to stress to, yeah. I mean, you know what it’s like to, 

Kristin: yeah, I’ve already done that once. I’m not interested in go in doing it again. 

Will: No, 

Kristin: no. Mm-hmm. 

Will: Is it that bad? Um,

it was, at least it was home call.

Kristin: You know, that makes me think about, [00:41:00] there was one time. 

Will: Gimme some of your call. Where? Phone call. 

Kristin: Well, no. There was one time where, um, it was just a very odd but meaningful scenario that I or seen that I stumbled upon, which was there was a, a lone sock laying on your nightstand and even for you, like you tend to throw your clothes everywhere.

Sure. I had never seen one all the way up on the nightstand before, and it seemed like it had been placed there, not like randomly, you know, it wasn’t, yeah. Draped or whatever. So I was curious about that. And then come to find out you had put your pager on top of it so that it wouldn’t buzz and wake me up on, you know, if it were directly on the nightstand.

So that was kind of touching. That was thoughtful. Yeah. Right. I always did 

Will: feel really bad. I, I just like, I, I do, I pride myself [00:42:00] on being able to wake up very quickly to grab the pager 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: Or my alarm or something. ’cause I, I instinctively like, don’t want to wake you up. ’cause I know, I know how hard it is for you to fall back asleep.

And then you’re just gonna be tired all day. 

Kristin: Right. 

Will: So I don’t you’ll have to sub the consequences. Did ever work though? Did you, did, did you just wake up every time anyway? Like, 

Kristin: um, I don’t know. Did I, I mean, I know when I woke up, I don’t know the times that I didn’t wake up. 

Will: When you would wake up in the middle of the night to my pager.

Would you like under your, like in your head where you’re like, I can’t believe I married this guy. 

Kristin: That wasn’t, it has to 

Will: wake up in the middle of the, what I 

Kristin: said to myself. No, but it, it was some grumbling for sure. Can’t you go in a different room? 

Will: What do you think would’ve been better? Like do you home call where you know, obviously like I’m on call for like a weekend at a time or something.

[00:43:00] Mm-hmm. Or just like 1 24 hour time period where I’m just not home at all. 

Probably that. I 

think that would be better. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: Than being a, being home call. Uh, like being home. Yeah. But just being on call, that 

Kristin: is kind of more annoying because you’re home. 

Will: Right. 

Kristin: So I want you to be participating. 

Will: Right. But 

Kristin: then you keep 

Will: and family not 

Kristin: being available.

Will: Mm. Okay. Interesting. So 

Kristin: it’s like, at least if you’re gone, it’s just like, okay, well he’s gone, so this is gonna go 

Will: this way. You know exactly what’s gonna happen. Right. Let’s. 

Kristin: I’m not, I don’t have any expectations that are not being met. 

Will: Yeah. You know, in theory, the, the home call thing, it sounds good. Yeah.

It sounds like better, but in a lot of ways it’s not. You know? Uh, because, I don’t know. I don’t know. 

Kristin: It’s a mixed bag. Like there were times where 

Will: now it’s good. 

Kristin: Well, yeah. 

Will: Right. Private practice, ophthalmology. Yeah. Technically I take home bad call for a week at a [00:44:00] time, but I get like five calls o over the course of a week.

Yeah. 

Kristin: But it was nice, like especially when we had little babies. It was nice if you were there in the evenings to help with dinner and bedtime and all of that. And then, you know, it’s, maybe it is just like a, an internal bias, but it seemed like you got more calls overnight. 

Will: Yeah. You 

Kristin: know, ’cause it’s like five or six you come home.

Everybody’s already been in the clinic that day. Right. And you got a couple of hours where we did all the dinner bedtime. 

Will: That’s true. 

Kristin: And then like, after people start going to bed, or you know, about bedtime for adults. Mm-hmm. The calls start again. 

Will: There’s, there’s a certain time where after that time.

Every single call is from the emergency department. 

Kristin: Mm-hmm. 

Will: And so it’s going like, ’cause that’s, that’s all people are doing in the middle of the night. Right. Where are you gonna go? Right. Right. It’s 

Kristin: the only place, 

Will: um, and a lot of people will just, either or they’re not patients of ours, so they won’t like, call us [00:45:00] directly.

Right. They’ll just go to the emergency department. 

Kristin: Mm-hmm. 

Will: And I wanna say it’s like 11:00 PM 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: You know, that’s. You know when it 

Kristin: feels like your doctor is asleep, 

Will: right? Yeah. 

Kristin: So it’s too late to call. 

Will: So you And when get taking home call, especially during residency, it was one of those things like, I don’t want to go to sleep until midnight.

I don’t even wanna try to fall asleep until midnight. ’cause I know I’m gonna get that call at like 11:30 PM Yeah, 1145. And then you can have a whole night where you sleep. 

Kristin: Sometimes. Yeah, 

Will: sometimes. But there’s always that call like that that comes up right? When you go to or start, go falling asleep. 

Kristin: Yeah.

You had a knack for that of every time you Oh, 

Will: so that is, you 

Kristin: would wait up and wait up and then be, feel like it was safe to go to bed and then Paige, 

Will: that that’s, that’s almost worse than like a 3:00 AM call. It’s like I just fell asleep and now I gotta start the whole process over again. Anyway, I’m just reliving my residency days now.

Um, that’s all we got. That’s all, that’s it for knock, knock. For [00:46:00] knock-knock. High Glock talk. Yeah. Division. 

[music]: Yeah. 

Will: Thank you for joining us. Do you have any stories that you wanna, uh, tell us about? You can reach out to us, knock-knock high@humancontent.com. Send us an email or uh, you can hang out with us and our Human Content podcast family over on Instagram and TikTok at Human Content Pods.

I see you pop up on that, um, Instagram channel from time to time, human content. 

Kristin: Oh 

Will: yeah. You’re over there. 

Kristin: So are you? 

Will: Yeah, that’s right. Yeah. I, I always, I always scroll right past my own face though. 

Kristin: Oh, okay. 

Will: I always, I never watch it. Like, that’s 

Kristin: ironic. Your face is everywhere. Why you put it there. 

Will: Right.

Why do I wanna watch myself again? Sometimes the only time I’ll ever watch my own videos again, is it it, and it plays in the background while I’m rereading some of the comments. Yeah. ’cause people are really funny in the comments. 

Right. 

That’s it. I, I, I typically just scroll right past myself. Uh, thanks to all the.

But I have great content, so you shouldn’t only me, only I am allowed to [00:47:00] scroll past my own content without watching. All right, everybody else has to watch it. Uh, thanks to all the great listeners leaving feedback and reviews. If you subscribe and comment on your favorite podcasting app or on YouTube. At Glaucomflecken Flexin, by the way, we’ll give you a shout out at Cherry Cola.

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Kristin: You, you do [00:48:00] that so much? I do. Lot 

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Will: Hey, Kristin. Yeah. Am I a good multitasker? 

Kristin: Sure. 

Will: I don’t believe you. Oh, that was not very convincing. 

Kristin: No, 

Will: that’s okay. I, I fully admit I’m not the best at it. And the problem is physicians have to do a lot of multitasking. 

Kristin: Yeah. That is a problem. 

Will: Like, I’m sitting there, I, I talk to the patient. Mm-hmm. I hear all the things, synthesize all the information, come up with a diagnosis, sometimes order medications, and then maybe that has a, an interaction with a different medication.

You gotta like figure that out. You know what can help though? Microsoft Dragon copilot. Mm. Yeah. This is great. You don’t have to, you can just use Dragon Copilot, like in your workflow. You can access information [00:50:00] right at the point of care right there with the patient. And like if I wanted to look up a code, a diagnostic code mm-hmm.

For the encounter, I can use Dragon copilot. It’s, I can look up drug drug interactions. There’s, there’s an endless number of applications that you can use drag copilot for. That’s 

Kristin: true. Very true. 

Will: I think it’s good for you as a patient too. 

Kristin: Yeah. I mean, ’cause it 

Will: seem, it’s stream, it’s streamlined and it’s it’s 

Kristin: streamlined 

Will: and you get accurate information, right.

Or quickly. 

Kristin: Yes, exactly. You’re taking the words right outta my mouth. 

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