An Example of Why the Path To Medicine Can Be Very Challenging | Dr. Antonio Webb

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[00:00:00] Knock, knock, hi. Hello everybody. Welcome to knock, knock. Hi with the Glockenfleckens. I am your host, Will Flannery, also known as Dr. Will Glockenflecken. I am also your host, Kristen Flannery, also known as Lady Glockenflecken. And I would just like to point out that you need an eye exam. Stop it. No. No. No.

We were just talking about how you think something is blurry that nobody else thinks is blurry. We’re looking at our video feed, for the video part of this podcast, and it looked a little blurry to me, and everybody, I tried to fix the focus, but everybody else said it was fine. And so Kristen thinks it’s because my eyes are going bad.

I’m just saying, you are of a certain [00:01:00] age. I’m just saying. I am 38 years old. And how many people come in with just needing the slightest modification by 38 years old. I have slight, I have slight latent hyperopia. So yes, I will need reading glasses before my peers. I’m just saying. Not today, Lady G. Not today.

I will have terrific vision all my life. I mean, look, That’s how it works when you’re an ophthalmologist. We know the secret and we’re not going to tell anybody about it. Sorry. This has really hit a nerve with you. You, as part of your identity, that you have always had perfect eyesight. Do not come for my eyes.

I’ve always had perfect eyesight. Well, all good things must come to an end. I became an eye doctor before I ever saw an eye doctor. You still have not seen an eye doctor. I have friends. But they haven’t given you an eye exam. So? As you tell me, it’s very important to get your eyes dilated and go in for a full exam.

It is. Once a year. You all should no, not once a [00:02:00] year. Depends on how old you are. Okay, well some time At your age, every two to three years is fine. Okay, so every two to three years, you should be getting them looked at. Do as I say, not as I do. That’s, that’s the motto for me. I’m gonna get you in that chair one way or another.

You’re gonna do my eye exam? No, someone else is, but I’m gonna get you there. But I’ll hold you down if I have to. I’m just, look, I’m busy. I, I You go there every day! You literally work in an eye doctor’s office. Right? Surrounded by a bunch of other eye doctors. Look, the point is, I’m fine, everyone. My eyes are not blurry.

They can’t be, because I’m perfect. Just a little bit of denial. You’ll come around. Alright. Well. Let’s see. I’ve thrown you off. I don’t even know what to say now. You’re just, you’re accusing me of being blind. I didn’t say blind. I might as well be.

How do you think that makes me feel with [00:03:00] my negative 3. 75? Oh, you’re blind. But thank goodness for the miracle of modern medicine. Because now we can put nice little spectacles in front of your eyes and allow you to see 2020 again. Just like you. It’s what we can do for you two. Ooh, I’m 20. I’m 2012. Okay, well, we’re gonna have to do some more work on this.

Okay. Now you’re just being a belligerent teenager. Well, that’s our intro for today, . Let’s talk about our guests, shall we? Oh, yes. Uh, he does not deserve this, these shenanigans we’re getting, we’re getting, uh, far away from eyeballs with, uh, talking to, uh, orthopedic spine surgeon, Dr. Antonio j Webb. Now you might know him from YouTube.

That’s how I came across it. We talked about that. Uh, he has, um, uh, you can find him Antonio web MD. That’s web with two B’s, two B’s. Uh, he’s also on Instagram, uh, Dr. Antonio web MD, uh, he’s on pretty much all the platforms. You go [00:04:00] check him out, um, and does great content, educational content, teaches people about being a doctor, what it’s like to be a spine surgeon.

Yes, I’m pretty sure he’s some sort of, you know, What would it be? Like a supra human? Like above a human? He’s, uh, his upbringing, like where he started in life to where he is now, really is pretty remarkable. It is! It really, really is. And, uh, it is, it’s inspirational, it’s just impressive, period. And so, uh But then on top of that, he does a bunch of good in the world.

Yeah, yeah, like, he’s trying to give back and Yeah. With everything. So, really, fun conversation. Should we get to it? Let’s do it. Here he is. Dr. Antonio Webb.

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we are here with Dr. Antonio Webb, and uh, you’ve told us that because of all your time in the military, people just call you Webb, so I’ll just call you Webb. Yeah, yeah, I mean, that’s what I Does that sound good? I’ve been going by that for the last 20 years, since my time in the military, so uh, yeah, Webb is fine.

Well, we appreciate you joining us today. It really is a pleasure to talk with you. Yeah, absolutely. Thanks for having me. You look like you just got done seeing patients in clinic or, or somewhere. Just got done working out. Nah, yeah. I’m in clinic today. Um, and, um. You got the, the white coat on. Now as a surgeon, like, like let’s be honest, you know, on a, on a happiness scale, where are you in the clinic versus in the operating room?

Actually, that’s a great question. I don’t really mind [00:06:00] either one, you know, there’s this whole big thing about surgeons not liking clinic. I actually enjoy clinic. I get to meet patients and talk to them and just learn about their life. I really enjoy it. So, um, but I had to choose one. You can’t really have one without the other, right?

You can’t really have one without the other. Exactly. If I had to choose one of them, it would be in the operating room though. Um, so I, I, I’m really excited to talk with you just because, you know, we’re both on YouTube. I, that’s where I first found you actually. Uh, occasionally people will like make. Like reaction videos to some of my, I’m sure you got like all kinds of requests.

Like, Hey, have you seen what this glock inflecting guy is talking about? Orthopedic surgeons. So I, and I watched, uh, I think the video you did a while back, uh, uh, reacting to, to my ortho character. And I appreciated your video because you’re like, you know, you didn’t like. You didn’t really sugarcoat, you’re like, uh, you know, we’re not really like totally like this.

This is really very much, uh, exaggeration [00:07:00] of a stereotype here, which absolutely is. So I appreciate you making that video. Yeah, no worries. Yeah. I mean, I’m a big fan of your work and, uh, enjoy the content. I mean, it’s something to kind of get us all through the day and especially coming out of the pandemic and You know, just having some humor and some, something that really interests us.

That being said, even though like you’re, you’re, you’re probably not like the, that, that typical like bro kind of guy that I’m always portraying as for an orthopedic surgeon, you do seem very strong though. So I, I think there’s, there’s something to that, right? Well, I think it’s really this FIGS jacket that I ordered too small.

I tried to fit in for today. It was really snug. I’m going to have to send it back, but unfortunately I have to put my name on it. They won’t let me send it back. But. I, I, I try to work out, but , yeah. Not sure. Well, I wanna, I guess we, let’s start with the, the social media stuff. I want to get into your background ’cause you have a, a very unique, interesting, um, background and kind of how, [00:08:00] what, what led you into medicine.

But, uh, with, with the, so I love the social media content, the, your YouTube videos You do. How long have you been doing this? Oh, man, I, I’ve been doing it for a while, probably since 2015 or so. What got you into making content? It was actually during medical residency where students were constantly bombarding me with questions and regarding, you know, how do you, how to get into your orthopedic surgery, how to match as a IMG, just questions relating to the process, and I was getting the same questions kind of over and over again, and I thought, wow, this is probably a good idea if I just put this into a video where I can just send them to the answer, just copy and paste it and send it really quickly.

Uh, so that was really one reason. The second one was that I realized that a lot of surgeons and physicians were blogging kind of online. So, I thought that was a niche that no one else was doing, so I decided to kind of go with it, but Everybody’s blogging these days. , [00:09:00] but you were one of the first Yeah.

You’re, you, you’re early on it. Yeah. Well, you know, I wouldn’t, I’m not sure if I was the first, but I, I was probably one of the few surgeons out there that are really doing it. Um, yeah, so, well, because how do you find the time? Right? I mean, it’s, it’s, you know, you spend so much time. Operating. I mean, everybody in medicine has a busy job, but, um, Well, but you don’t.

Well, you’re gonna, you’re gonna hear a lot of ophthalmology jokes here. Um, but I mean, it’s like what you do is you have a longer form videos than I do. And so I’m sure it probably takes a lot of time doing all the editing and, and, and filming. And, and so how have you, how do you manage that work life balance?

Yeah, when I was a resident, I didn’t have the money to pay for, you know, some people to kind of help me, editors and videographers. Yeah. But now I have a whole team of people that kind of helped me. Oh, good. And I’m actually here with my videographer today. We’re just, he’s hanging out with me today. I have a talk later this afternoon at [00:10:00] my college that I graduated from to the pre med society there.

So, Um, he’ll be with me as well. So, but yeah, it’s, it’s hard, just like you said, to find time to do it, especially during a busy surgical residency. Um, that’s probably led to the question by my hand surgeon, my mentor that I worked with, We were in a case one day and he was like, hey, Dr. Webb, I can’t tell if you’re left handed or right handed the way that you’re operating right now.

So, um, but I should have probably spent, spent a lot more time practicing surgery than, than practice shooting videos. I don’t know. It seems like you’ve had a lot of, a lot of experience here. Yeah, you seem to be doing alright for yourself. Five years of ortho residency and then another year of, of spinal surgery fellowship.

Um, and, uh, I’m sure it got easier too, once you got out of training, because, you know, making content as a resident, it, it, it’s, you just, the hours that you’re putting in as a resident, the hours in the operating room. And so, um, I’m sure it’s probably eased. Eased your schedule up a [00:11:00] little bit being able to not not be in training doing all this stuff Yeah, absolutely.

I’m just not doing the editing part also, which takes quite a bit of time. Yeah, I don’t think people realize that you know If they don’t do this kind of work that the editing takes so much time because it all looks just pretty seamless. Yeah You know, especially, you know, his operation, very low tech, but it is, I mean, I can only manage, I do, I do editing myself, but it’s like two minute videos, like doing like 14 to 20 minutes.

Like, I don’t know, it seems like you’re in there for like an hour, I don’t know if the whole time is spent editing. So you can imagine how long it takes, like 30 minutes to edit a 30 minute video, but right. That’s what I’m saying. Are you, so now that now you’re, you’re doing. Ortho, orthospine, probably all things ortho, I imagine, right?

Are you, have you, are you mostly a spinal surgeon with your fellowship or do you still do a lot of variety? I just mostly just spine now, like 99. 9%. When I first got into [00:12:00] practice, I did a trauma call. So I took a lot of trauma, level one trauma center, level two trauma center, uh, did a lot of that for two years and just gave that up.

The lifestyle was pretty crazy for that, so. Yeah, I bet. Oh, doing trauma? Yeah. This is gonna sound like a joke, but it’s a, it’s a serious question. So, we’ve talked to some other orthopedic surgeons and, you know, they’re talking a lot about like femurs and like great big bones and how hard it is to move those bones, right?

And that’s why the stereotype is that ortho is really strong and works out a lot. What is it like with the spine? Because that’s so much smaller and more delicate, I would imagine. Yeah. Is there a lot of brute force? I don’t know, I’m not in medicine. So this might be a stupid question, but. That’s actually a great question.

It’s, it’s a little bit of both. So, when we’re performing fusions of the spine, we’re putting these pedicle screws in. Oh, yeah. We’re, um, you know, maneuvering or, um, reducing certain parts of the spine or slip forward or jump facets, things like that. That does require, a required quite a bit of force, but [00:13:00] majority of spine surgery is very meticulous and very precise and very fine type surgery.

So, um, that’s what I enjoy. It’s a good balance between both because one part of the surgery, I’m pounded in a cage from an A lift going to the front of the patient’s belly, then doing a decompression, you know, have to operate a little bit slower, more meticulous. Right. I’ve always been, I’m always fascinated by the fact that you can come at spine surgery from different places, right?

So you can come to it from the neurosurgery side and from the orthopedic side. Do you see a, I guess, what is the. Is there like a, a technique difference? Is it, what, what is the difference? So, I mean, I’m sure you have colleagues that come from the neurosurgery side. Is there a debate among ortho people that trained in different ways of which way is better?

Yeah, there, there’s always a debate. And it, with, with spine surgery, you can ask 10 different surgeons, you know, how to treat a certain pathology and you may get 10 different answers. That’s the reason why I like it. It’s a lot of variability in the field, but, um, it’s, [00:14:00] I think it’s going towards a combined orthopedic and neurosurgery residency, or fellowship, I would say, or training, because a lot of neurosurgeons will do a spine surgery fellowship afterwards.

So in my fellowship, we had, um, we had a few neurosurgeons that trained with us, and as part of our staff, we had probably like four or five neurosurgeons on staff that I worked with. So, um, the training is very similar. I do think, uh, neurosurgeons are way better at, um, anything inside of the spinal cord, like the intradural tumor.

Mm-hmm. in the, in the brain. We, we don’t do any brain work. So, um, I’m from the base of the brain stem all the way down to the sacrum pelvis. Um, otherwise it goes, goes to neuro surgery. Gotcha. Now, I want to go back and, and talk about, you know, your, where you came from, you know, your, your, your path to medicine, because it seems, uh, you, you come from a very different background, um, than, than probably a lot of [00:15:00] people.

And I think a lot of people could learn from, from your experience. And so, you know, where’d you grow up and what got you set on the path to medicine? Yeah. So I grew up in Shreveport, Louisiana. Um, That’s, my father was in the private military and that’s where he retired and that’s where we ended up. And my path was certainly quite the journey.

Um, no one in my family is a medical doctor, so really I had to figure this whole path out my, on my own. Um, but my parents both are kind of low income, uh, grew up in a lot of poverty in Louisiana. Uh, my dad’s multiple family members, including my dad, spent time in prison. My dad joined a gang when he was young.

and spent time in jail. Um, a little brother went to jail for armed robbery when I was young. He was 15 years old. Um, a little sister did several years in prison. Um, since I’ve been young, my mom has been in and out of jail my whole life. She was actually shot, and she’s a T 10 quadriplegic, uh, from a gunshot wound, [00:16:00] which is, when I was in medical school, she got shot.

Um, from her drug addiction. So just growing up in that type of environment, um, really challenging to escape all of that and then get to where I’m at. But it was actually a medical magnet program that I went to in high school. Luckily that I got accepted to that introduced the field of medicine to me.

And that program is the reason why I’m a doctor today. So I go around and just share my story to students. And that’s hence the talk this evening to my old college. Just letting them know. Uh, kind of a little bit about my, little bit about my path and how I gotta this point. How, how old were you when you, when you came across that magnet program?

Oh, I was, I was in 11th, um, 11th grade. So 16, probably 15. 16. What prompted you to apply to it? Did you have a teacher that pushed you towards it, or what, how did you come about doing that? Yeah. Honestly, I’m, I’m not, I don’t really recall. I just remember being in the program. Um, my best friend, uh, he’s a cardiothoracic anesthesiologist.

We kind of stuck together. I think he got into the [00:17:00] program. I got into it. Um, and he’s a physician now. We both kind of made it out of that environment. Yeah, that’s remarkable. And so, and you went, so I guess I don’t, I’m not sure what these programs are. Cause I always think of when, when I, when I have talked to her, no, you know, doctors who are, who are in the military, usually it’s like you get into med school and then you meet a recruiter and they say, Oh, here, you want to, you know, do this, you know, military scholarship and then do years of service.

But you. You got into the military right out of high school, it sounds like. Yeah, I didn’t even graduate high school when I went to boot camp for the military. My high school was on a quarter system and due to that quarter system, I was able to complete all of my credits. So, midway between my senior year of high school, they let me go to boot camp for the, I joined the military at 17.

And then I came back and walked with my graduating class in my military uniform. Um, [00:18:00] but that program essentially just gave me the exposure. Because I, I don’t remember YouTube at that point, but I’m pretty sure that would have maybe influenced my decision if I saw another physician who looked like me and came from a similar environment to that.

I’d say, hey, I want to do that too. But, um, that program just gave me the idea, the possibility, that, wow, this is something that I can really accomplish if I just kind of stuck, stuck to it. And so you were, you were eight, eight years in the, in the U. S. Air Force? Eight years. And what were you doing during those years?

I, I, I. With regard to medicine? Yeah, I did a number of different things. I was at EMT, um, I was an LVN, licensed vocational nurse, and medical technician, um, deployed to Iraq in 2005 as a medic. Mostly the medical field. I knew going in, I wanted to do something medical. My whole goal was to go through the military, have them pay for my school, then get out and go to medical school.

So that was my whole goal the whole time. Okay. All right. And so you spent, uh, you did [00:19:00] a tour in, in Iraq, you said in 2005 and that, what, what about this experience? I guess, did it, did it, did it clue you into certain parts of medicine or away from certain parts or, you know, how did that shape, you know, what, what area of medicine you gravitated towards?

It probably just got me more interested in the field of medicine in itself. We did a lot of orthopedics overseas, a lot of X fixes, fracture fixation. There’s a lot of gunshot wounds, blast injuries, you name it. So we saw a lot of trauma and and, um, just kind of gravitated towards that. And this is all, but this is all happening.

I mean, you’re, you’re, you’re quite young at this point, right? I mean, cause you haven’t actually been to med school yet. You, you probably, I’m sure you had some, an emetic training, uh, just to be able to do the job, but, um, I’m trying to put myself in, in the, the, the, uh, the mindset that I was in [00:20:00] as like a, you know, 20.

2-year-old. I’m not sure how old you were, but seeing all of that, I think I was 20. Yeah. 19 or 20. Yeah. , I’m wondering, I’m seeing a parallel. Like you, we weren’t in the military, but, um, but we, he had cancer when we were in our twenties. And then, you know, you had this experience when you were in your young twenties and it’s kind of, both of those could have the, you know.

byproduct, I guess, of, you know, when you’re that young, you have that sense of invincibility. But when you get something like cancer, or when you see something like a war zone, and all the injuries that come from that, like, you know, that can kind of erode that sense of invincibility and kind of give you a Different appreciation for sort of the fragility of life and yeah, how how vulnerable you are Did you experience that at all or or was it the opposite like you have to kind of just shut all that out and stay Focused it was a combination of both.

I was deployed to one of the most attacked bases in Iraq at that time. It was called Mortarville Due [00:21:00] to the amount of mortars that we attacks that our base received at that time I think coming back they said we survived. I think it was a little over a hundred enemy attacks There was several times where there was rockets kind of going right over my head.

Um, I mean, just being in that type of environment, uh, really makes you appreciate life. And, uh, and, but, you know, all of my military experience, including Matt, really prepared me and has led to my success. I think certainly has contributed to, so. And, and so when you left the, the military after eight years, did you have a, uh, a degree?

Uh, because you went straight from there to, to, to medical school. Is that right? So I’m just, I’m just trying to think how it works in terms of like college, then med school. Yeah. This is really breaking your brain. No, it’s not. I’m just, I’m just trying Yeah, it’s a little confusing. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I actually went, I did most of my [00:22:00] college, my undergrad while I was active duty.

Um, it’s, this is very uncommon. Uh, but when I worked, I was in the military as a medic. So when I worked in the evening time at the hospital, I would get off work at maybe seven o’clock in the morning and I would go to school from eight to one. And then I would sleep for two or three hours and then go back to work at six.

So I did that and for six years and did it. 99 percent of my undergraduate degree, and when I got out, I had one or maybe one semester left, and I finished that and applied to medical school. You’re some kind of a superhuman. No, I I think. It’s just not a lot of sleep. We know how much we enjoy sleep. And, you know.

It’s I’m just like, I have no right to complain about any of my minor inconveniences of my very cushy suburban life now that I hear all of this. Yeah. It was definitely challenging, but, um, it Really, um, you know, it was really persistent. Well, it probably is. It gives you some perspective on, especially when you, when you [00:23:00] would end up going through more difficult time in your life, uh, particularly.

Orthopedic Surgery Residency, which I’m sure wasn’t a walk in the park as well. You’re like, yeah, if you had to do one again, which would you do? Go to war or go to Orthopedic Surgery Residency? You had to pick. That’s a great question. I would probably, how much time do I have to spend at war? Right? Right.

Um, it’s, uh, they bring their own challenges, I’m sure. But so, so you, how does it work? I guess when you’re. When you go into the military at the age that you did, was there, whenever you got out, was it like, okay, we will pay for your med school now, or because of the years of service that you have put in?

How does that work? Well, they pay for a portion of it. You get what’s called a post 9 11 MGI bill. They pay for all my undergrad because I was on active duty besides the one semester, but Uh, for medical school, they pay up to the highest state school, [00:24:00] so I went to a really expensive medical school at Georgetown where it’s, uh, about 100, 000 a year for the tuition, the housing, crazy.

Um, but, um, they didn’t cover all of that and I still came out of medical school about 500, 000 of debt. Because of that. Oh, man. Yeah. Wow. What what was it about Georgetown? What what got you there? Um, I actually did a post bac program there at Georgetown. That’s what brought me to Georgetown. Plus, Georgetown has a really high rate of accepting or getting students into the field of orthopedic surgery.

In my class there was probably about 25 to 30 students who went into orthopedics my year. But usually it’s about 20 students per year, like a high percentage. That’s why what is it? What is it about Georgetown? Maybe because of the student loans. What are they doing over there? Maybe, I don’t know. You’ve got to pay back those student loans.

That might be it. That’s right. We’ve it somehow. Oh my goodness. It’s hard to do that going into family medicine. Right. Yeah, I mean, that’s part of one of the big problems [00:25:00] in healthcare in this country, right? Is because of that student loan debt. I think it really does push people into certain, away from certain careers and toward others.

And that’s a whole thing we could talk about. Yeah. Um, it, so it does, so you were, it sounds like day one of med school, you were like ortho, like you knew, like that’s, since that, that influenced your decision on where you went to med school. I’m sure you were all for ortho, right? The whole way. Uh, day one of coming out of my mom’s, uh, womb, uh, no, um, yeah, it was, I pretty much knew something surgical.

I just had to figure out, I was looking at ENT, kind of looked at plastics a little bit. And ophthalmology, right? Like I was Naturally. I actually didn’t rotate with ophthalmology. I’m pretty sure See, we could have. We could have had. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Yeah. I know. It’s also a very, like, meticulous It is. I think you would have You would have been a good ophthalmologist.

I think you would have gotten into doing those corneal transplants and cataract surgery and stuff. Yeah. It’s It’s all fine [00:26:00] detail. Your muscles would have atrophied significantly though. Yeah, I mean, look at the difference between you two. I’m just saying, it’s, it’s, you know, you’re kind of a, uh, you know, you’ve become the body type of the surgeon you’re doing.

That’s right, but your hands, those are precious, precious hands. Exactly. But yeah, I did rotate in ophthalmology, but that’s one of the specialties that I just didn’t I think that’s pretty common, like, you know, it’s not a lot of med school ophthalmology exposure. Honestly, the only reason I’m probably an ophthalmologist is because my mentor that was assigned to me day one of med school was an ophthalmologist, just happened to be an ophthalmologist.

And, but I do remember asking her, okay, what is ophthalmology exactly? So it’s like, I ain’t got no idea. Um, I think most people know orthopedic surgery. Um, but, uh, and so you, you finished med school, uh, at, uh, at Georgetown, and then were you sweating out a spot in the match? Was it, was that a stressful time for you?

So ortho’s pretty competitive, right? Ortho’s very competitive. Okay. No, [00:27:00] I did pretty well in med, I did really well in medical school, and I’m on board, so I knew that, um, I was going to match somewhere. Get a good shot. Um, ended up getting, I think, 15 interviews, so interviewed, like, all over. Again, I mean, he’s very humble about it, but I’ll just say it for you.

This is a rare specimen of a human being. Like, I don’t think he needed to be worried. It’s very competitive. Like, like you said, some people apply to, I applied to 90 programs. Um, in my, that’s so, that’s, that’s so expensive too. Yeah. All the application fees. Um, and so you ended up in San Antonio. Yeah, really my number one location.

I rotated here just because I was in the military here in San Antonio with the college. Just decided it was a good place to come back and practice, uh, medicine and match. Oh, so you did a lot of some of your, um, your, your training, your training, your, um, military training. Yes. In San Antonio. Okay, gotcha.

Yeah, they have the big, the big, uh, yeah, base, [00:28:00] a base there. That’s right. You can tell that we are very ignorant. A career in the military unfolds. Well that’s why, that’s why I feel like people will learn about this and get to know what that’s all about. And it’s, did you, what was your, what were your thoughts of moving to Texas?

I grew up, so, we both grew up in Texas. I was in the Houston area, more of a suburban upbringing. Kristen was in the middle of nowhere. Uh, it was a little town called Dublin. It’s like halfway between Dallas and Abilene, a little ways off I 20, if that means anything Classic small Texas town. Very like Friday Night Light situation.

They didn’t have a, they didn’t have an arts program, but they had a giant football stadium. I see. Yeah. Classic Texas. That’s kind of, that’s kind of how it goes. Yeah. Right. Where, um, did you have any desire to, because, you know, once you finished, Training you, uh, you stayed in Texas. Did you have any desire to go back to Shreveport or [00:29:00] anywhere in Louisiana?

No, no, not Shreveport. They tried to recruit me, um, LSU Shreveport, but I just couldn’t convince my wife to go back there. That was not happening. No. No. Uh, and so it was, uh, um, Plano, Texas. Is that where you’re at now? No, I’m actually in San Antonio, Texas. I I was in Plano for my fellowship at Texas Back Institute.

Yeah. Oh, oh, that’s right. That’s where you did the, in San Antonio fellowship. Yeah. So I wanna talk about that because I don’t know if you, I don’t know why you would know this, so you probably don’t know this, but I have had a, a cervical disc replacement. Oh, okay. And as I understand it, the Texas Back Institute is very important player in that field.

Yes. Right? Yes, absolutely. That’s where disreplacements first started. I think Dr. Blumenthal is one of the first people in America, in the US, to place a disreplacement and those guys all taught me how to do them and that’s kind of what I brought here to San Antonio for my practice. Well, I got to say, I am a big fan.

Yeah, you did well. [00:30:00] Oh shit, great. Yes, I was having all sorts of trouble. It was awful. And then, you know, had the surgery. And once I was all recovered from that, then it’s like nothing ever happened. Let me ask you this, uh, Webb, uh, do you advise your, your patients who have a sort of cervical disc replacement to do, um, Uh, 10 minutes of chest compressions, like three weeks later.

Oh! It wasn’t three weeks, but it was shortly after. Do what you gotta do. Yeah, you gotta do what you gotta do. Terrible timing on my part. Yeah. Yeah. That’s a good thing about disc replacements. Quicker recovery. Yeah, you were you did recover very quickly like it was yeah, I mean, I don’t want to yeah Give me credit for what I earned here.

But but yes compared to something like a fusion or something like that Yeah, I am that’s why I’m a big fan because it is it’s like nothing ever happened. You can’t even tell yeah Yeah, let’s take a let’s take a short break. We’ll come right back

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All right. We are back with Dr. Antonio Webb, uh, who many of you have probably seen on YouTube. Uh, he’s got fantastic videos, um, where you, a lot of educational stuff. I noticed you’re, you’re, you’re doing a lot of, cause I mean, I know from, from my experience as an ophthalmologist that anytime something vaguely eye related shows up in the news, like I’m going to hear about it, right.

I’m sure it’s probably the same way for you. Probably get tagged and all kinds of stuff. Like. Like, uh, I know just recently they have this, uh, the doctor death, uh, TV show, right? That’s surrounding about the, uh, nurse, you know, the neurosurgeon that was, uh, that’s probably a hot topic, um, in the, uh, in the spine world when that, when that whole thing came out, I imagine.

Yeah, it still is. It’s one of those things that, um, [00:33:00] Certainly is. Um, I mean, it’s a, it’s a sad story. Just, um, for those who haven’t really heard about it. It’s just this neurosurgeon who kind of somehow just passed through training and was able to get out and practice and, I mean, things like that happen, um, as a result.

Yeah, it is. So, unfortunate. It is scary. Yeah. It is scary. Was that in Texas? Did that happen? It was, yeah. Dallas, Fort Worth. Oh, gotcha. When you say passed through training, meaning, like, he skipped it. Well, no, I mean, he was, he was. Able to complete training. Okay. But the question is like, should he have been able to based on his Cause he was no good and he Right.

Like what the, the, yeah, just his performance. The amount of surgeries that he performed compared to other people. Mm hmm. Okay. And so then when it didn’t go well, once he was in practice, I take it given the nickname Dr. Death. Well, uh, you’ve never I am aware of it, but I’ve not seen it. [00:34:00] I don’t like listening and watching stories like that.

You’re not a true crime type of person. No. I want something that’s gonna be either make me learn or make me happy. That’s what I want. Well, then I think this is probably not this big for you. No, that’s why I haven’t seen it. But it was, it was a fascinating, uh, um, look into a lot of things in medicine. And it’s a terrible story, but, uh.

Hopefully there’s some like change happening because of the attention that it brought. I mean, there has been, I mean, I don’t know what the, all the systemic issues that led to that particular case. Cause it’s so out, out there, right? Like that just, that kind of thing doesn’t happen all the time, you know, but, um, yeah, hopefully it’s not.

I’m sure you’re probably tired of talking about it, Dr. Webb. Yeah, we’re on a tangent here. Oh, no, it’s one of those things that, uh, yeah, I mean, I love talking about stuff like that. I mean, it’s How do you get your ideas, though, for content? Like what are your, um, do you pay attention to what people are asking [00:35:00] you about in the comments?

Is that, is that where Because that’s where I get a lot of my ideas as well. Yeah, a little bit of both. People reach out to me, hey, Dr. Webb, can you talk about this or, um, you know, hot topics, a lot of the sports injuries that are going on as it relates to orthopedic surgery. So I have a question just out of my own selfish interest, which is, do you see a lot of hypermobility?

Uh, some, yeah. A lot of patients with, uh, EDS or, uh, certain, uh, disorders, um, of their, uh, musculoskeletal system. Yeah, we see quite a bit of that. That’s what led to my cervical disc replacement, so I was just curious if you’d do things on that. I see, gotcha. And if not, would you please? If you’re open to requests.

Yeah, yeah. That’s what we’re doing here. I actually had another patient reach out and say, ask me to talk about EDS and as it relates to spines. Yeah. Well, that’s an area too, that’s, that’s becoming more, um, more talked about. I feel like I hope so. Yeah. I mean, I, I, I certainly see a lot more people mentioning it when we think that’s just [00:36:00] cause you’re married to me though.

Now, you know, I don’t know. I think there’s certain diseases that are just, we’re just learning more about. Yeah. And I, I feel like. EDS was something that we certainly learned a little bit about in med school, but it wasn’t wasn’t really fleshed out and talked about a lot. Right. Well, because no one understood it.

Don’t really understand it. Right. There’s probably a lot of things like that. And now, I mean, it’s not good that long COVID is happening, but but one, maybe silver lining for people like me is long COVID has a lot has a lot in common with Um, you know, certain types of EDS and there’s overlap there. Yeah.

So I think that now that we’re studying long COVID, we may learn more about things like EDS. Well, I want to, I wanted to, you, you did send us a couple of stories, uh, web about, um, that. Yeah. I like it whenever you don’t send the actual story, you just like a little teaser. So here’s, so tell us why you stopped wearing cowboy boots.

I’d love to hear about this. Yeah. So, uh, wearing cowboy boots is kind of a thing in Texas. [00:37:00] So, you know, if you rotate in Texas as a medical student, um, at most programs, you’re going to catch some resident fellow tending, um, in cowboy boots. So, and for me, for being from Louisiana, I just, you know, it’s not something we did in Louisiana.

We didn’t wear cowboy boots. So, it was a real eye opener coming to Texas and doing my training here, and as part of our graduation gift as residents, uh, they give us cowboy boots with, uh, our program name on it. So, it’s like a huge thing here, but, um, Like actual cowboy boots that fit your face? Yeah. It has the program name and the year we graduated.

Graduation gifts. Nice boots. Yeah, in Texas that’s like a very nice gift. It is. I haven’t worn them yet, but, um, I have some other boots that I did wear. They were from my training. They were kind of beat up and, you know, I just didn’t want to get rid of them. But I have a patient that came into my office, And she’s African American also, she was like, Dr.

Webb, you mind if, you won’t get mad if I give you a little [00:38:00] feedback, would you? I said, no, not at all. I said, well, what are you, uh, what’s up? She was like, you got to do something with those boots. I just, you’re too successful to be wearing boots like that. But they were, they were beat up and it was time to get rid of them.

So my wife had been pounding me about, hey, why are you still wearing those? So. So you retired the old ones. Yeah, I just, I haven’t felt the same and I haven’t worn boots since then. So she made me a little self conscious. Yeah, sure. Just gotta get some fancy attending boots. That’s all it is. Yeah, I want to go look for some.

Maybe you’re the reason why that was the residency gift. Like, for the love of God, please get new boots. Here you go. It’s always interesting to see just orthopedic surgeons just operating in their boots in here in Texas, so. No, and I will say I haven’t had a, I mean I grew up in Texas, I lived there till I was 22, um, I don’t think I ever had a pair of cowboy boots.

No, but you were a city boy, you grew up in city [00:39:00] Texas, it’s not the same, not at all. That’s fair, that’s fair. He didn’t even know what a Skunk smelled like. We moved to New Hampshire when we were like 22 or 23 and that was the first time he’d ever smelled. He was like, what is that awful smell? I was like, are you serious?

That’s a skunk. That was a, that was a low point for me in terms of, of, of being an authentic Texan. So that’s, yeah. That was, that was rough. Yeah, he’s a city boy. Yeah, a lot of skunks around here. Be careful. And now you’re also in an airplane crash. Oh, I wasn’t in an airplane crash. No. Oh, you weren’t. No, this is, um, during my residency, you know, we take a lot of trauma call, um, as orthopedic surgery residents, always in the ER.

I remember, uh, one particular time, um, getting called down to the ER for a plane crash. I was like, holy shit, plane crash. So, but I went down to the ER, the guy was talking, he was just moving, of course he had a few broken bones and [00:40:00] kind of banged up every part of his body, but a couple minutes later his wife walked in and started yelling at him, saying, I told you not to go up there, I told you not to take that plane up there.

I was like, holy shit, what is going on here? So Yeah, he was getting a second degree from his wife about flying his plane, um, a little small, two seater probably, and ended up crashing, so she just went off on him. I thought that was, I just broke down crying, or laughing. Should always listen to the wife.

Yeah, she was, she came in yelling, I was like, man, she sounds like my wife, yelling at me. Well, if you guys just wouldn’t do stupid stuff, we wouldn’t have to yell. Yeah, no. That’s Yeah. You know. That’s That That Yeah. He’s got a lot of business because guys do stupid stuff. Yeah, that’s true. That’s How often do you Are you Do you take trauma call anymore?

Are you Are you totally done with Heading down to the emergency department and in the middle of the night, or is that still part of your job? Not any like official trauma call. I gave that up. [00:41:00] That’s like I said, it’s a rough lifestyle just being up all sorts of the night and I have three little ones, three kids.

So it’s, um, I gotta be home with my kids. And I just do call for my, my practice, my group, and also just a random ER phone calls from doctors that I know. Okay, yeah, I didn’t know if because I’m in private practice up here and we we do cover the emergency department of you know Four different community hospitals.

We do occasionally have to go in But it’s definitely nowhere near like the level one trauma center type of type of life. Yeah, you know that that could be right So it’s and you started So what year did you finish training? I finished in 2019. So you like right when the pandemic started you were like Starting your career, basically, you’re like done with training.

So what was that like? What was that transition? Like, um, did you have patients to see? Actually, yeah, I did. It was, it was a very interesting time just because, you know, new out into practice and then you’re trying to build your [00:42:00] practice, trying to meet people. And you’re going to their office. They’re standing back 20 feet from you and just tell them, no, I’m, I’m COVID free.

Can I come in and introduce myself? Um, but that was a really interesting time. Um, you know, I had some. Unfortunate events where I had hospital that, you know, as surgeons we get guarantees. I’m not sure if that’s like that for Ophthalmology where you get income guarantees your first year. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, that’s it’s kind of the case. Yeah. Yeah, so I had one hospital I was supposed to give me an income guarantee for this huge amount of money as a new spine surgeon in town And within two weeks of graduating, I think it’s like two or three weeks, like the CEO called me. I had just rubbed out of a trauma case and fellowship.

He said, uh, Hey man, I’m sorry. We’re not going to be able to do your offer anymore because of all the COVID. So I had a, I had a rough. Kind of scramble trying to find new offers and jobs. It was rough, uh, but got through it though. I’m sure a lot of people were probably in the same boat too, like us. Yeah.

And [00:43:00] that’s not the time you want to feel like you don’t have an income when there’s a global pandemic. Yeah. But everybody was, you know, even if you were in private practice, you can’t. procedures, but oh yeah, yeah, we got, we, we shut down all of our locations. Um, we said we had to, you know, and, and it was, we had to let go all our staff.

Fortunately, we were able to hire him back again eventually. But, um, yeah, it was, I mean, that was when I joined TikTok basically and started making video content I was, I was like, I was, you know, no, one’s going to ask me to go help in the hospital as an ophthalmologist. Like I would just get in the way. So.

Um, I was like had all this free time on my hands and so I started making videos and One thing led to another and started, you know, are you on tik tok by the way, or are you just doing a little tik tok? So it is a little bit but not to the level you are. It’s a good way to get your stuff out there It’s uh, you know the little short short segments help, uh, help, uh, you know Yeah, you can you can create an audience [00:44:00] pretty quickly on well, especially if you’re you’re trying to talk to the general population You know, that’s a really good place to go because it does have such a broad reach trying to trying to teach them all about bones At some point.

Yeah. . So speaking of that, so I, I, I did a little thing here, um, that I thought w would be fun to go through with you. So I’m sure you’ve heard this joke before, like, uh, PE people, like, say, like WebMD Yeah, yeah. To you, like, you know, that’s right. That’s, I’m sure that’s like hack neat and old at this point, but, so we’re gonna, so we’re play on that too.

We’re, we’re gonna play on that joke here. Um, I, so, so we’re gonna play a little game called WebMD. Alright. Basically, what I did was I, I, I just searched on WebMD the word bones, and I want you to try to guess what do you think, like, in the top 10 search results are for, for searching for bones. On WebMD specifically.

Yes. I would probably say the top one is, uh, maybe femur. It. [00:45:00] Um, femurs on there. Yes. ? Yes. Uh, what about fem erection? No. Look, people probably do it. They probably search it that way. Uh, good idea. I think that’s a different WebMD. I think that’s another website. Yeah. Okay. I’ll tell you, I’ll tell you one. Bone spurs.

Oh yeah, yeah. Bone spurs. That came up a lot. Yeah. Tell us what bone spurs are. Uh, bone spurs, it’s a, um, it’s a process where you have two bones that are. Say, for instance, a patient has arthritis. It’s a process where those two bones are rubbing against each other and it forms extra bone. So these bone spurs can cause a lot of issues in spine surgery.

We deal with them all the time. Kind of like a bone callus, right? Like if you think about your fingers or something, getting a callus from rubbing up like guitar players and stuff. I guess I always think I just I think of bone spurs mainly for like the feet. It just makes me think of spurs on the boots, like speaking of cowboy boots.

Well, yeah, right, but, [00:46:00] but you can’t get bone spurs anywhere where there’s that friction, right? So I’m just, are you, what do you do for bone spurs? In the spine. Well, it really depends on what’s going on, but in general, it’s usually pressing on the nerve or a portion of the spinal cord, so we try to remove it, um, that’s usually, uh, take the pressure off of it with a cage or shave it off.

Take a, take a file to it or what? Like a roto rooter, yeah. Oh. Yeah, roto rooter the spine. Yeah, just clean it out. Just like that. Okay, let’s see what else so here’s here’s a nut some more well, what do you know you’re supposed to Tell us probably commonly searched Tell, uh, I know that that’s your knee or now it does have to say, it would be like bone is in the title of the thing, right?

Okay. So not type of bones necessarily. Just they, they bones. Yeah, like bone. Tell me [00:47:00] about bones. Strengthening your bones, osteoporosis, bone health is probably in there. Yes, osteoporosis is a big one. Bone fractures. That’s the one where you get like holes in your bone, right? Osteoporosis, like they’re Yeah, it’s like the loss of density.

Bone densitometry is on that list, which goes along with, with, you know, osteoporosis. Is that the measurement of the bone density? That’s right. Yeah, she’s good. Right? She’s picked up a few things along the way. I’ve been along for this whole ride. I’ve been married to medicine for a while. So, you know, she’s got it down.

She also hears me, you know, talking to myself as the orthopedic surgeon from time to time. Yeah, but you don’t sound as smart as he does. I don’t. No, I do. Alright, here’s one that you would never guess was on this list. Red bone marrow. Oh. Oh. Red bone marrow. Is there a other kind of bone marrow? Yes. There is?

What else is there? Good question. I’m not sure, I don’t remember that. [00:48:00] Yeah, there’s a couple different types of bone marrow. So is that like white blood cell, red blood cell? It’s just a part of your bone that makes the red blood cells and all of your hemo, um, like the, um, all of your cells, kind of your body, red blood cells mostly, that are created in that part of the bone.

Does the yellow marrow also make red cells? That’s more of kind of a fatty adipose tissue, um, Yeah, kind of storage, storage fat, and things like that. Okay. You were trying to sound uh, impressive. I’m out of places. I thought of the word. That’s what I was thinking of. That’s what, I think that’s what it is, right?

It’s, it’s, you know, I know a few, few long words that aren’t related to ophthalmology. All right, all right, how about this? How about the talus bone? That’s on the list. What’s that? Yeah, it’s a, the, the talus or the, it’s a bone in your ankle. Uh, it forms the articulation between your tibia, it’s right on top of your, uh, under your tibia.

It forms the [00:49:00] ankle joints, part of the, uh, one of the bones in your foot. It forms your ankle joint. Yeah. Is that the one that cracks every time I walk on a stair? You’re, she’s poppin and crackin all over the place. I do. You can hear me coming down the stairs because every single step it, my ankles crack.

Yeah, I’m surprised that, that one’s on the list though. I wouldn’t, wouldn’t have thought that would have been on the list. Right, it’s, it’s kind of surprising. And then the other one, uh, bone cancer, obviously, people are interested in that. And do you, do you do a lot of oncology? Do you deal with anything there with regard to the bones?

Yeah, very little. I just, I just saw a lady today in my office that, um, I sent her for some additional testing. Her, something looks a little, uh, questionable in her bones that I thought. So to me, it looks like cancer, but we’ll see when she comes back. So you might do, it’s like, not like, official screening, but you might see things that Yes.

Like that are suspicious and then refer. Refer things to you, thinking, you know. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Right. Yeah. [00:50:00] Um, well, that was WebMD. Yeah, I like it. Um, now, uh, before you go, uh, Web, I definitely want to talk about, um, some of the things that you’re working on recently. I know you are releasing an online social media course for doctors.

Can you talk a little bit about this? Yeah, so, um, I came up with this idea. I’ve actually had it for a few years. The course is going to be called Social Media for Doctors. This is, um, really driven by getting reached, I’m pretty sure you get contacted all the time too from other physicians, healthcare providers that are just saying, Hey, how can I get started on social media?

For me, the social media has really kind of, um, accelerated my practice, you know, out of nine, there’s about to be 10 spine surgeries in my group. Number one, number two, every month in terms of performance and, um, productivity. So, and I credit that really to just, uh, number one, just doing really good work here in town and developing a reputation for [00:51:00] myself as well as social media.

So. I get contacted all the time from providers. Um, I had a CEO of a pain clinic in Oklahoma who just reached out to me and said, Hey, can you speak to our physicians about social media? They would like to expand that front. So I decided it was a good idea to put all that to a really a online format where I can just provide that for providers.

It just goes over how to monetize, how to grow, how to market yourself, the do’s and don’ts of social media. Um, so yeah, That’s coming out, uh, the World Social Media Day in June of this year, so we’re going to release it that day. Oh, we have a World Social Media Day now. See, he’s better at it than you. We didn’t even know that.

So, you’re ahead. That’s in June. Yeah. That’s awesome. So, let’s look out for that. And that’s socialmediafordoctors. com is where you can find more information on that. Uh, and then you also have a, um, a foundation. Yeah, I do. Yeah. Yeah. That’s [00:52:00] awesome. Yeah, it’s called the Web Family Foundation. It’s called the Web Family Foundation.

I started it because of the, a study came out in, I believe it was in 2014, that showed that there were more black males in medical school in, I think it was 1978, than there were in 2014. So, it’s really to just increase diversity and also just encourage kids from my community or similar communities as mine to think about medicine.

So I have a summer mentorship program that I do every year where I select a few students to come hang out with me in surgery and also clinic and we do some cadaver labs, saw bones labs. I’m really just exposing them to the field of medicine. Very similar to the program that I went to in high school that got me interested in medicine.

So and I think also in June of this year having a huge health event. We’re about two to three hundred students from surrounding areas who are going to be in attendance, have some cardiologists there, orthopedic surgeons, [00:53:00] neurosurgeons, all types of specialties just to expose kids to various fields in medicine.

I’ll see if we can get an ophthalmologist in there. I’m just saying. Yeah, we need that. Yeah, and then, um, big other thing is, just donated a, um, big, um, scholarship amount to my undergraduate school, this community college where I first started. So, we do some, hopefully, do some more stuff like that for the community.

Yeah, that’s awesome. Wow. I love how you’re paying it forward like you’re already such an inspiration But then you you go and you do stuff like this putting the rest of humanity to shame No, I’m just basically trying to give back and help that next student get to where they’re trying to go I realize that’s really important.

Just having mentors and People that can kind of guide you in the process. So, yeah, I mean, your story is really quite remarkable. And, and one thing we’ve learned is, is that, you know, storytelling can have a [00:54:00] huge impact. Um, on, uh, on people’s lives and learning from your experiences and being able to see somebody who’s had an experience similar to theirs and, and resonate with that.

Exactly. Yeah. Keep up the great work. Doing awesome. Yeah. We’ll see you around YouTube, huh? Yes, absolutely. Yeah. Maybe you should take his course. Maybe I should. Yeah, definitely. This is for that person that has no social media experience. Yeah. But you should think about doing something like that too. I mean, it’s a good.

Yeah, I’m pretty sure you get contacted all the time. Yeah, it’s, it’s, it’s a good idea, you know, and we’ve, we’ve kind of played around with it and it’s, it’s, you know, being in, in the medical field is a bit different in terms of what you can say, what you can’t say, you know, cause you can really get yourself into trouble.

We see that a lot with, with people in medicine and, you know, when, especially for me as a. Joke telling person, you know, I’ve, I’ve got a lot of [00:55:00] thoughts on what you can and can’t say. It’s all from a personal experience I’ve learned along the way. So, um, good stuff there. Yeah. Keep up the great work. Thanks for coming.

Thanks for coming on. It’s been a pleasure. Appreciate it. Thank you guys for having me. Yeah. It’s been a pleasure chatting with you and, uh, yeah, much success to you and the rest of your practice and social media as well. Appreciate that. Take care.

Uh, hey, Kristen. Yeah. How many mites is too many mites? For me, one. Well, I have eight. That’s way too many. That’s a lot of mites, right? No one wants that many mites. You know where you find these guys? I’m afraid to know. On your eyelids. Yeah, I don’t want that. I know, but like, if you ever have red, itchy, irritated eyelids, or if you get a crusty, flaky buildup on your eyelashes, Could be because of Demodex Blepharitis.

Ugh, no. It’s caused by these guys. I don’t know. Demodex mites. I don’t want it. It’s just a thing that [00:56:00] happens. They’re usually not this big though. Well, that’s good. Usually. Usually. They’re much smaller than this, but they can still cause major problems. And so you need to go get it checked out by an eye doctor.

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Well, did you get all your orthopedic surgery questions answered? Not all of them. No. I have a lot of questions about things. You do. Well, with your, with your history, you get the Yeah. Well, sure. There’s that. I think it’s so you can replace like what can’t you you still can’t replace an eyeball Yeah, can’t replace a whole eyeball you should get on that that that hasn’t we haven’t figured that out yet That’s a tough one, but like replacing an entire cervical disc.

What about a face? Can you replace a face? There has been [00:57:00] a face transplants. All right. Yeah, I’m telling you you can replace Do they work? Almost anything now, except the brain. Because I’m just envisioning like Nicolas Cage, John Travolta face off situation. It was, I don’t know the details, it was like a pop sci type of, you know.

Article that I saw, so I don’t, who knows how accurate that is. You don’t know is what you’re trying to say. But it was done! It was done. A face transplant was done. Someone tell me, did like, no, it wasn’t like, like, they just wanted a new face. No, like they needed a new face. Like they needed a new face. That would, you’re in dire straits if what you’re needing is a new face.

You can’t just go out to the supermarket and slap one of those on. No, you can’t. That’s, that’s trouble. So it’s, I think eventually we will be able to replace, like, the entire human head. Well, that’s terrifying. I’m just saying. Medicine continues to advance. There’s a lot of existential questions there. You never know.

You never know where things will end up. I guess not. Why are we talking [00:58:00] about that? I don’t know. You brought it up. Let’s go to our fan story, shall we? This comes from Sandra. Sandra says, I just wanted to say thank you for the videos. I thoroughly enjoyed them and I thought you might enjoy this anecdote.

I had to see an ophthalmologist recently, and when he came in, a woman with a laptop followed him. Without a single ounce of circumspection, I blurted out to her, You’re his Jonathan! Haha, oh no. With a smile, she, Jonathan, nodded at me. Oh my goodness! It made my day, so I wanted to share. Thanks again for your videos.

That made my day, too. Haha, I love it. I encourage you all to shout at Jonathans that you see in real life. No, not unless you’re saying you’re doing a great job. So that’s the second story in a row we’ve, we’ve said, like last week we did a story where someone like mentioned like a Jonathan, not Jonathan, but a Glockenfleck in reference in real life.

Yeah. So far it’s worked out. Yeah. I want to hear, [00:59:00] I want to hear the stories of when it doesn’t work out. Yeah, like cricket. I want to hear from somebody who tried to do a Jonathan, or not a Jonathan, but a Glockenfleck in reference in real life, in real time, and just, Just nothing. Fell flat. You got just looks of confusion.

That would make me laugh. I’d love that. Send me your stories. Let’s hear it. Knock knock hi at human content. com. Thank you all for joining us. Uh, that was, it was, uh, just a wonderful talk with Dr. Webb. Yeah, he’s doing some really cool things. I love the foundation. Yeah. We need a glock and flecken foundation.

Don’t think I haven’t thought of it. I know, we’ve talked about that before. Yeah. I’ve got lots of ideas. A lack of ideas is not the problem. We need a foundation specialist to guide us. We need a lot of things. Like, I could use so many people to help. How do you start a foundation? Anyway, give us some, uh, ideas at people that you want to hear on the podcast.

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I don’t think we’ve gotten human content on LinkedIn yet. Ooh. Well, I’m not in charge of their social media, so. Thanks to all the great listeners leaving wonderful, maybe you should be, leaving feedback and awesome reviews. If you subscribe, but they’re gonna have to pay you for that. Oh, yeah. If you subscribe and comment on your favorite podcasting app and on YouTube, we can give you a shout out like today.

Ash2424 on Apple said five stars, but would be cuter with more eyeballs. Put some more eyeballs back there in the background. Make it look like our Halloween decorations. I can get like an eyeball necklace. Put it around. Yeah, all right. Big eyeball hat. I want a headband with [01:01:00] eyeball antennas. Lots of eyeballs.

Boing, boing, boing, boing. Full video episodes are up every week on my YouTube channel at DGlockenfleck. We also have a Patreon. Lots of cool perks, bonus episodes, or react to medical shows and movies. Hang out with other members of the Knock Knock High community. We’re there. We’re active in it. We are running the show.

And our early ad free episode access, interactive Q& A, livestream events, much more. Patreon. com slash Glockenfleck, or go to Glockenfleck. com Don’t have to yell at them. Now they’re not going to want to come. They’re going to love it. You’re going to enjoy it at Glockenflocken. com. Speaking of Patreon Community Perks, new member shoutout to Sarah F.

Hi Sarah! Sarah, thanks for joining us. And, shoutout to all the Jonathans as always. Patrick, Lucia C, Sharon S, Omar, Edward K, Steven G, Jonathan F, Marion W, Mr. Grandaddy, Caitlin C, Brianna L, KL, Keith G, JJ H, Derek N, Mary H, Susanna F, Ginny J, Ginny G. Mohamed K, Avika, Parker, Ryan, Mohamed L, Medical Bag, Bubbly Salt, and [01:02:00] Ink Macho.

It’s Jenny J though, you had it right the first time. Jenny J. That’s a J. Jenny J, Jenny J. What’d I say, G? You said G. G, G, J, G, J. Patreon Roulette. Sorry. Patreon Roulette. Random shoutout to someone on the emergency medicine tier. We got Baseball Rob. Baseball Rob. Baseball Rob is baseball. Um. No, I think he’s probably more of like a basketball person.

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Hey, Kristen. Yeah. Healthcare workers are struggling these days. I know, there’s a lot of burnout. A lot of administrative burden that’s driving that burnout. Yeah, it’s certainly a major contributor. Clinicians spend up to two hours on administrative tasks for each hour of care provided to the patient.

Yeah, [01:04:00] that should not be the ratio. That’s not sustainable. No. Fortunately. We have the Nuance Dragon Ambient Experience, or DAX for short. Oh, is that why you’ve got your little friend there? Oh, you noticed. Oh, he did? Yes, this is the DAX co pilot. He’s very cute. Isn’t he? He’s got wings. He’s there to fly us to a world of less burnout and more efficiency by giving us this AI powered Ambient technology that sits there in the room with you while you’re with the patient and it helps you document the encounter so you can spend more time developing that patient clinician relationship.

That’s right. You don’t have to be looking at your computer. It’s capturing it for you. It’s great. To learn more about how DAX Copilot can help reduce burnout and restore the joy of practicing medicine, stick around after the episode or visit nuance. com slash discover DAX. That’s N U A N C E dot com slash discover D A [01:05:00] X.