Glauc Talk: Do You Need Travel Health Insurance for the UK?

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Hello, everybody. Welcome to Knock, Knock. Hi, with the Glockham Fleckens. I am Dr. Glockham Flecken, also known as Will Flannery. 

Kristin: I am Lady Glockham Flecken, also known as Kristen 

Will: Flannery. The Flanneries. 

Kristin: The Glockham Fleckens. That’s 

Will: who we are. Uh, this is an episode of Glock Talk. 

Kristin: That’s right. We get 

Will: to talk about glocks and other glock non glock things 

Kristin: Yes, the only dedicated time that we have [00:01:00] in our lives to speak to one another.

And we’re 

Will: sharing it with you We’re inviting you into our personal relationship. I’m not real 

Kristin: sure what that says about us, but we’re not gonna think about it too hard. 

Will: That is what it is. 

Kristin: Yeah, we’re busy. That’s what it says. 

Will: You promised me you’d tell me something that happened the other day You went to Target Don’t all, don’t all good stories start with a trip to 

Kristin: Target.

Well, it wasn’t actually Target. It may as well have been, but it wasn’t. Oh. Um. 

Will: That takes a little bit of luster out of the story. Yeah, 

Kristin: sorry. You’ve gotta get your facts straight before you open your mouth. 

Will: What happened? What happened? 

Kristin: Well, you know, we’ve been moving. Uh, just a local move. Different house.

Yes. We 

Will: needed a little bit more space with, uh, growing kids and a giant dog. Gigantic. That we did not anticipate getting when we moved into our first house. 

Kristin: Exactly. Exactly. Now we have a 

Will: yard, everyone. 

Kristin: We didn’t have a yard before. That’s basically the upgrade. We had 

Will: no yard. Now we have a yard. 

Kristin: Yes. Um, anyway, one of the things that we needed to do was, was clean out the garage at the house we are moving out of, right, like [00:02:00] sweep it out.

And so It’s 

Will: nasty. 

Kristin: Well, it’s a garage. They get dusty and, you know, just stuff gets in there. Lots of 

Will: old spilled dog food everywhere. 

Kristin: Probably. Yeah. Uh, so I went to Our local, you know, supermarket chain. And 

Will: Freddy’s, 

Kristin: Freddy’s, Fred Meyer, for those who are in the know. Uh, and I, I just needed to get like a garage broom, right?

Like one of those really wide, stiff bristle push broom to just like sweep as much surface area as possible. So also at the same time, you know, we’re getting our house ready to like sell. So we’re spiffing things up and whatnot and cleaning everything up and, Not that it was terrible, but I, uh, decided while I was there, you know what, I’m going to replace this one shower curtain.

That was fine, but like, kind of bugged me. Always kind of bugged me. Wasn’t one of those things that you ever dealt with, right? And so I just, whatever. So then, you know, because [00:03:00] I’m me, I also have to get like a bunch of other, other things like, oh, we’re out of this. We’re out of that while I’m here. I need to just pick that up.

So, you know, by the time I go in for a broom, I come out with, The seven or eight things. That 

Will: is very Target like behavior. It 

Kristin: is, but they are like, none of it was like fun purchases. It was all like functional purpose. Yeah, purchases. So anyway, go to the Self checkout, right? I prefer the self checkout when it’s available being, you know, the classic introvert that I am.

I will avoid talking to service people whenever I can. Nothing against them. I will avoid talking to any people when I can. You don’t even have to 

Will: say much when you check out. It’s like, hi! 

Kristin: It’s just the energy. I mean, of all people, you should understand. You’re the same way. 

Will: Not quite to the extent, but yeah, I get it.

Well, 

Kristin: you know, you’re going to the grocery store. You’re just not in a chit chatty mood. You’re like, I’m most of the time, I’m not like trying to get shit done. I mean, like sweats and gross. So yeah, so go to the self checkout. I also don’t have very many items, right? That’s [00:04:00] another good like true filter for can I go to self checkout if you have a cart full of items What are you doing in the self checkout?

That is a different topic. That is totally different. It’s a PSA Uh, 

Will: god, this is so suburban of us talking with us. Okay, keep going. It really is weird We are aging millennials. We 

Kristin: are no use denying it, I guess. Okay, so I get up to the self checkout problem though I have few items so I i’m doing that correctly, but my items These are long and lanky like you are.

I got this big shower curtain broad, and I got a push broom that’s enormous. So the self checkout areas are small. And so I go to the, to the last one, cause it has a little more space, right? Cause there’s nothing on one side of it, but there is another checkout station on the other side of it. So I’m just moving along and I even think, you know what I, because I’m clumsy, I’m not Right?

You know this about me. I am very clumsy, and over the, over time I have [00:05:00] tried to, like, counteract my clumsiness, like, like, anticipate it and, like, try to be intentional about it, right? So I’m thinking, okay, I’m not going to pick up all these unwieldy items and try to scan them and, like, put them in the bagging area, right?

I’m just gonna use the handy dandy little checkout gun that is a recent addition at our local self checkout stations. So I just grab that and I’m scanning the barcodes, you know, everything’s going along just fine. I get to the push broom. The barcode is not anywhere that’s accessible within the cart. I have to physically pick up the broom.

It’s like underneath, you know, of how the broom was positioned in the cart. And so I had to pick up the broom and scan it. And as I did so, again, I will remind you, this is a very long broom. A little unwieldy. I whacked the guy next to me right in the head. 

Will: There it is. God. And 

Kristin: then, and I felt so bad, [00:06:00] and I was like, I’m so sorry.

And so then, I tried to, I offered, I wanted to, you know, I, I just apologized profusely for a little bit, and I had to take a minute to be like, oh no, okay, so what do I do? How can I, like, make this better? And, I came up with, you know what, I’m just gonna pay for his stuff. Cause like, can’t be that much, he doesn’t have very much, right?

Like, I’ll just, I’ll just cover it as a like, I’m so sorry, uh, that I caused you some, some head damage. 

Will: How hard did you whack this poor person? Not 

Kristin: that hard, but I just, you know, I just felt so bad. How old 

Will: was he? 

Kristin: Oh, this is a dicey game, but you know, like a young, young adult, like probably our age or maybe younger.

Will: Okay. Gotcha. 

Kristin: Like probably a little younger. It 

Will: matters if he was like older 

Kristin: twenties, younger thirties. 

Will: It matters if he was like 90 and you hit him on the head. No, no, no, no, no, no. Right, 

Kristin: right, right. No, this was a young strapping lad. 

Will: Gotcha. 

Kristin: And. Uh, but it did hurt, like, I heard the sound of it hitting his head.

Yeah, I mean, and you don’t expect to walk up to a [00:07:00] self checkout station, be minding your own business, and get whacked in the head. So it felt bad. So, you know, I was like, okay, so I’ll just pay for his stuff. Um, it’s not gonna make your head feel any better, but at least it’s a gesture. And so I said, can I, can I just get your things as a sorry, can I pay for that please?

And he pulls out the receipt. It was too late. He had already paid. He had like just, in the time that it took me to deliberate, What should I do about this? He had paid and so then I missed my chance 

Will: and you look like someone that waited for him to pay for his Offering 

Kristin: yes, like how 

Will: thoughtful of you to offer after I had already paid 

Kristin: Did he 

Will: say anything when you offered to pay for his groceries?

He just walked away. 

Kristin: He just oh, you’re good You’re good and then got out of there Oh, so I’m sorry, sir, whoever you were, if you’re out there, I know, I just, I was just trying to clean the garage. 

Will: [00:08:00] It was either going to be you fell and, and dropped everything and they all scattered across the linoleum or, or, or you hit somebody.

I knew it was, it was one of those two things. I sure 

Kristin: did. So, you know, if you see me around at the local Freddy’s, just keep your distance for your own safety, probably. 

Will: Moving is like so many like weird things that you never like thought that you’d have to like, you know, go through and like figure out just pop up, you know, there’s like just so many things like for the first week, we’ve been in this house for like about a week, a little more than a week, um, are, uh, you know, we have more space now.

Yet, our entire family had to sleep in the same room for like five nights. 

Kristin: Right. 

Will: Because we have two young kids. 

Kristin: Yes, and the whole point is, let’s, we are, we are bursting at the seams of our current home. We bought it as, you know, a family of very young children and no dog, and now we’re all bigger. Yeah.

The [00:09:00] stuff they’re into is taking up more space. Especially me. Let’s get more space. Yeah. Right. I know. And so we get to this house, and Finally, we can all spread out and have our space. 

Will: But the kids were too scared to sleep in their new room. So 

Kristin: we had one kid on one side of our bed, the other kid on the other side of the bed, and even the dog at 

Will: the 

Kristin: foot of the bed.

And 

Will: the reason the dog had to be in there, well, he’s always with somebody when he sleeps, but he’s also quite blind. 

Kristin: Yeah, 

Will: he does not see very well. It’s a new house. It’s a new house. He’s tripping over. Especially 

Kristin: underneath. What? I don’t know. Tell the people what the deal is. 

Will: So he has this, he has a third, his third eyelid.

Kristin: Which dogs have apparently. 

Will: Yeah, it’s, it’s uh. You don’t 

Kristin: normally notice because it’s in the proper location inside of their 

Will: second 

Kristin: eyelid. Oh, 

Will: with a nictitating membrane, I think is what they call it. Nictitating? Nictitating? Nictitating, nictitating. I think there’s like an extra thing in there. Anyway, it’s what our Krunkle is.

You Which 

Kristin: is the little pink thing 

Will: on the inside of your eye. That’s your [00:10:00] vestigial third eyelid and But Doc still have it but his because I think it’s because he’s so inbred we rescued him by the way We rescued him, and, and, we didn’t know he was so blind, it wouldn’t matter, his eyes are very deep set, we ended up getting genetic testing, he’s like 40 percent inbred, this poor dog, and, um, and, but his eyes are deep set, and so the third eyelid covers, like, the 

Kristin: bottom half of his eyeballs, the bottom 

Will: half of his pupil, And so he cannot see things that are below him, which makes it difficult to navigate sometimes until he’s used to the environment.

Kristin: see like light and shadow there? Like, what can you see through a 

Will: membrane like that? Veterinarians, can you tell us what to do in this situation? You’re 

Kristin: not the mom, I’m talking about a membrane. If you put a membrane like that, to 

Will: obstruct the vision. Yes, but can 

Kristin: he see, like, at all through it, or is it just like black there?

He might, 

Will: maybe. He might be able to. It looks pretty, like, dense. Thick. Yeah, it’s pretty thick, so. But my question for any veterinarians that listen to this podcast [00:11:00] is, Uh, can we have that thing removed? 

Kristin: Yeah, I really just wanna, like, 

Will: Can you remove the, like, like, open up that third eyelid? Cause 

Kristin: his eyeballs, and his, his eye, you know, his brain, visual cortex and stuff, Right, those are fine, it’s just this thing is in the way.

Will: So anyway, I don’t know, I think about in terms of human eyes, that, you know, any kind of surgery. Yeah. Could you remove 

Kristin: the carrum? 

Will: See, that’s the thing. It would cause significant scarring and, and it would, it would not be great to do that. 

Kristin: Scarring. Okay. So the scarring would be a problem because of how it.

Looks ’cause it would function how it looks. Because 

Will: it, it would, you know, the, the eyelids are very function in a very specific way. So you have scar tissue, it’s gonna, 

Kristin: it’s the way of the blink. Yeah. 

Will: It can affect the blink, it can affect the health of the surface of the eye. There’s, you need the, the eyelids are very important, but I assume it’s also important for the dog to have that, especially with our dog, which he doesn’t blink normally anyway.

So that third eyelid. 

Kristin: But would he, if that weren’t there. 

Will: Yeah, 

Kristin: like is that getting in the way and that’s why he doesn’t 

Will: know he doesn’t blink normally because his [00:12:00] eyes are so deep set That and he had the eyelid surgery so his eyelids just don’t normally blink So that third eyelid is providing some coverage to his cornea.

This is the perfect dog for me He’s got eye problems. Of course, 

Kristin: this would be our dog. 

Will: This is our dog. I love him so much And 

Kristin: he looks just like you as well. It’s a case of human and dog looking the same very tall and lanky and yeah curly You Round slash gray hair. Adopt. 

Will: Adopt. Don’t shop. Adopt blind dogs.

But 

Kristin: it’s been, yeah, it’s not blind dogs. It’s been a little bit, um, 

Will: sad. I don’t say he’s blind. He’s temporarily blind. 

Kristin: He’s just partially blind. Vision 

Will: is obstructed. Partially. That’s all. 

Kristin: Not temporary. It’s permanent, but. 

Will: Unless we can get that thing removed. That’s right. So veterinarians help us out. But it’s 

Kristin: been sad to watch him like try to navigate in a new space.

Yeah, we 

Will: gotta be careful. 

Kristin: And then like, I mean look, we’ve been helping him. We keep him like on a leash and stuff. But every once in a while, he’ll like turn around. He 

Will: feels more comfortable on the leash, 

Kristin: because 

Will: he feels secure knowing that I’m [00:13:00] right there in the leash. I’m not going to let him get into an area that he doesn’t know, so.

Alright, so let’s, let’s, do you think people want to hear more about our dog? No, they don’t 

Kristin: care. 

Will: Alright, let’s take a break. We’ll be right back.

Hey, Christian, you know how it’s kind of hard to make friends in your 30s? 

Kristin: Yeah, cause you don’t see anyone or go anywhere. Life just 

Will: gets complicated, right? With kids and work. 

Kristin: Right. 

Will: Well, I, I brought some friends for you. 

Kristin: Aww, 

Will: who? Demodex. 

Kristin: Okay. 

Will: Demodex mites. 

Kristin: You shouldn’t 

Will: have. You can, they can just live with you, on you, all over you.

Yeah. What do you think? Aren’t they cute? 

Kristin: Well, these ones are, but I, I don’t think the real ones are quite this cute as the stuffed ones. 

Will: They’ll listen to you. They’ll listen to your secrets. Oh. And 

Kristin: keep them locked away in their ribbed bodies. 

Will: So these little guys, they live on your eyelids and they can cause a disease called demodex blepharitis.

Kristin: Yeah, like itchy, crusty, red, flaky. 

Will: Irritated eyelids. Yeah. That’s right. No one 

Kristin: wants that. 

Will: No one wants it. But it’s [00:14:00] important that when people hear this, they don’t get freaked out by this. You gotta get checked out. True. Checked out, not freaked out, because, you know, coming to the eye clinic, we’ll talk to you about Demodex and Demodex blepharitis and see what’s going on.

To find out more, go to EyelidCheck. com, again, that’s E Y E L I D Check. com to get more information about Kristen’s new friends here, Demodex blepharitis.

All right, we are back. Let’s talk a little health care. 

Kristin: All right. 

Will: All right, not so much health care news, just health care related things. Uh, so this, this comes up, you know, uh, as every time I talk about the U. S. healthcare system, I usually get people from other countries. They’re like, like shocked. Like, Oh, it’s so bad.

Like, how do you do that? We don’t do it. We don’t, we do it differently here. Blah, blah. Um, and so I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately because of our trip to London. 

Kristin: Yes, 

Will: so we’re 

Kristin: [00:15:00] traveling to London. 

Will: Absolutely. Um, we’re traveling soon. And the reason is because my mom had a cancer diagnosis Uh, and she has she’s now recovered.

She’s cancer free and one of the things that she’s always wanted to do Uh is go to Wimbledon. She’s a huge tennis fan her and I I grew up watching Wimbledon with, with her. We watched it together, uh, and very fond memories. Uh, and, and so, and when I, when I started med school, one thing I told her, I was like, someday I’m going to take you to Wimbledon and this whole cancer, the diagnosis and treatment, which has been really tough for her.

Um, it kind of really made me like, kind of fast track that, like, we got, we, we need to, we should do this because time is fleeting. Health, my health, her health. Exactly. 

Kristin: Between the two of you, we just better go. 

Will: Yeah, we better do it. So anyway, we’re doing it this year, going to Wimbledon, uh, and, um, and so that’s the genesis of the trip.

We’re bringing the whole family. It’s just, it’s gonna be a [00:16:00] great time, uh, and then, just the other day, my dad, who’s, my dad is an engineer. He’s very meticulous, methodical, particular. He’s an, he’s an engineer, everyone. This is what engineers do. Um, and he was asking me all about, like, what kind of health insurance he needs to have for them for their trip to the UK.

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: And honestly, and I was like, you know, they, they have a different system for them for the UK. Uh, you, you will be able to, you will be able to receive care. Now it may be different for people who are not citizens, right? Because 

Kristin: they 

Will: have taxes that they pay that pays into this. So there probably will be some costs.

But I 

Kristin: bet even the cost will be so much less than what we’re used to with our insurance. 

Will: Absolutely. And, and so I just, I reassured him that like, they’re [00:17:00] going to be fine, you know, and you know, they’re retired. And I was like, like, we will, we will help pay for your UK medical bill, whatever it may be. 

Kristin: We will pay the 10.

But what I Because we are that generous. 

Will: But what I’ve, I’ve found in doing a little bit of research is that there’s all kinds of companies that will sell you 

Kristin: travel health insurance, 

Will: travel health insurance. And I’m, I’m wondering, I’ve never looked into this or really know much about this. A lot of it seems kind of scammy, you know, like, do you really need it?

So I want the people, I’m going to, I’m going to look into this more and report back. 

Kristin: Okay. 

Will: All right. But I want people to, uh, anybody listening. Let me know what your thoughts are about this, about going from the U. S. to a country that has a national, in the U. K. it’s National Health Service, or some kind of, you know, universal health care, so to speak.

What were your experiences getting health care in that country as an American? Alright, I’d love to hear your thoughts. Uh, do we need to [00:18:00] get some kind of scammy insurance company to, to, to give my parents coverage for the week and a half that they’re there? 

Kristin: Uh, uh, an insurance company who would like to sell something to elderly individuals?

Will: Surprising, right? Huh. You think that’s trustworthy? I don’t know. So, that’s, that’s something that we’ve been going back and forth on. I just told, I was like, don’t worry about it. Just go, look, the chances that something’s gonna happen are really low and we will not let you go bankrupt. From a UK medical emergency.

All right, it’s not gonna happen. Oh one thing I wanted to do with you real quick Before we move on to Another edition of this is why you’re wrong or it’s not really this is why you’re wrong But we need to have one once during these episodes have an argument. Yeah and Resolve it argument debate. What are you gonna call it?

It got me thinking when you’re talking about Fred Meyer readies All the different [00:19:00] places we’ve lived. Grocery store 

Kristin: chains. 

Will: All the regional grocery store chains. We’ve, 

Kristin: we’ve seen them all. 

Will: How would you rank them? So I’m going to give you the options. 

Kristin: Okay. 

Will: Let me give you the options. Texas had. 

Kristin: H E B. 

Will: H E B.

So that’s one. Okay. There was 

Kristin: also, I didn’t get, well, we did have an H E B in the next town, but it was mostly like, uh, Winn Dixie, Tiggly Wiggly. 

Will: United Supermarkets. 

Kristin: United, yeah. 

Will: Let’s go with H E B because that’s a very Texas like. Yeah, yeah, 

Kristin: yeah. 

Will: So H E B. Up in New Hampshire, we had Price Chopper. 

Kristin: Price Chopper, the P Chop.

Will: P Chop. 

Kristin: Because it was that, or the co op, and we could not afford the co op. We could not afford the co op as medical slash graduate students. 

Will: A little bit much. And then, uh, in Iowa, we had Hy Vee. 

Kristin: That’s right. 

Will: And then up here, we have Fred Meyer. 

Kristin: Yes. I mean, there are more than just those, but yeah. 

Will: So you got H E B.

Kristin: And Safeway. 

Will: Safeway. Oh, you forgot 

Kristin: one in Illinois, into the Chicago area, we had Meyer. 

Will: Oh, just Meyer. So there’s 

Kristin: Meyer, M E I J E R. [00:20:00] 

Will: Is that a Chicago thing? 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: Okay. 

Kristin: And then here it’s Fred Meyer, Emi White Yar. 

Will: All right. Can I, I’m going to propose my list and tell me if you agree. This is 

Kristin: also very middle aged suburban of us.

I just have to point that out. Oh my goodness. All right. 

Will: Here we go. Here we go. 

Kristin: Okay. 

Will: I think bottom of the list, last place, Christchopper. 

Kristin: Oh, for sure. 

Will: That thing sucked. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: Really bad. Awful. Um, I think above, just above that would be. Probably Meier. I don’t really remember much about Meier. 

Kristin: Uh, no Meier, but it’s 

Will: alright.

Okay. 

Kristin: It wasn’t bad. 

Will: I think that and Hy Vee are about the same. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: Alright. I put Fred Meier above that. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: And then H E B at the top. H E B is I think 

Kristin: it depends H E 

Will: B is great. 

Kristin: It is. I think it depends though. It’s not so Hmm. It’s a little tricky for me because I have been to some really nice H E Bs.

I have been to some really gross H E Bs. And the same for all of [00:21:00] the, you know Okay. All of the above. So, I mean, I, I, with the exception of Price Chopper, I’ve never seen a really nice Price Chopper. 

Will: Okay, Freddy’s, what Fred Meyer has that other ones don’t, it has like all the selection of all the non food related items.

They don’t all have that. 

Kristin: Yeah, they don’t all. A lot of them do, though. I mean, that’s not like terribly differentiating. 

Will: Those of you who are still listening to this podcast episode, um, should we just cut that whole thing out? 

Kristin: We’ll leave it to the producers and the editors to decide. 

Will: Decide our fate on the, on the regional grocery store chain power rankings.

Alright, let’s go, let’s go to our argument for today. You 

Kristin: a lot of our audience knows exactly what we’re talking about cause a lot of them have also moved all around the country. 

Will: Alright, let’s just get, um, uh, uh, uh, the next segment also out of the way which might also be something that nobody cares about.

But it’s actually very important to me cause it’s, it’s extremely annoying in my mind. 

Kristin: Okay. 

Will: I was [00:22:00] looking around our office here for a pen. 

Kristin: Yeah. Yeah. See, I think this will be a topic that people care passionately about. I disagree with you that no one will care. 

Will: And, and all I could find were these Sharpie pens of multiple colors.

Kristin: Ultra fine points. So this is not your standard permanent marker that you’re going to write on a cardboard box when you’re moving. 

Will: You had a cup. Full of these things. 

Kristin: It was a pen holder, not a cup. 

Will: Like it was like 10 different of these Sharpie multi. And I 

Kristin: like writing in color. 

Will: In all colors except black.

Kristin: Yeah. And I 

Will: really needed something to write with. And it was driving me absolutely crazy, because those things write terrible. 

Kristin: No, this is my favorite kind of pen to write with. 

Will: The only way to I write 

Kristin: everything in these ultra fine point sharpies. 

Will: Okay, for those of you who are watching, there’s, there’s, there’s, just, like, she’s got nice handwriting.

It’s all 

Kristin: blurry from there, but. [00:23:00] 

Will: I, and, anyway, we don’t have to show the writing, but, but, the point is, like, I, I was trying to write with these things, and it’s, I, You have to have it, you have to have the pen completely upright to be able to write clearly. I don’t know if that’s true. 

Kristin: Let me, let me see. Yeah, do.

You gotta have it up right. Yeah, but that’s how 

Will: That’s not a normal way to hold a pen. That’s more how I write. But that’s not a normal way to hold a pen. 

Kristin: Well, my body’s not normal in any way. 

Will: So here’s the deal. And this is why, like, the best pen is just the, the, the bick. Like the Yes. No. The one that you could just lose the cap, who cares, they’re just loose in drawers, like those, right, perfectly.

How are 

Kristin: we defining best? Because 

Will: Just the one that makes you feel like it gets the job done. That might be the most, like, 

Kristin: functional, but it is the price chopper of pens. 

Will: It’s a great pen. It’s the price chopper of pens. It is the workhorse 

Kristin: It’s cheap. 

Will: of the medical field. 

Kristin: It’s always there. 

Will: Yes. But it 

Kristin: is no frill, no fun.

You just 

Will: want a reliable, perfect pen. 

Kristin: I [00:24:00] don’t just want a reliable, perfect pen. I want an enjoyable writing experience. And these come in all sorts of wonderful colors, which makes me happy when the colors come through my eyeballs, and the like, liquid y, you know, like, quality. 

Will:

Kristin: like that a lot. I do. I like it a lot.

It feels, it feels permanent. 

Will: No. No. 

Kristin: I do. I like. I’m sure there are other people. Okay. Look, if you’re in a hurry and you need to just like scribble down something, sure, fine. Any pen will do. This is probably not your pen for that because if you’re writing, like we’re all taught to in elementary school, right, where it’s like at a 45 degree angle to the paper, these don’t do that as well.

But I, for whatever reason, tend to write. It’s more upright, maybe because I use these pens. 

Will: So impractical. Yeah, you’ve taught yourself. You’ve had to force yourself to write like a [00:25:00] maniac. But 

Kristin: it’s just so satisfying to 

Will: use. Just the no frills. I like how it 

Kristin: feels on the paper. I like how it sounds. 

Will: I want a pen.

I like how it looks. I want a pen I can buy from Costco, like a hundred of them for two dollars. 

Kristin: Well, this is the difference between you and me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 

Will: Okay. 

Kristin: You, this difference plays out in many areas of our lives. Like, you will settle for the bare minimum, messiest option. 

Will: But you know, you know why they’re the best option is because doctors will steal them from each other.

Kristin: Well, do you have other, do you have these Sharpies available to be stolen? No. 

Will: No, no one wants them. 

Kristin: How do you know if they’re not made available? You can’t run, you can’t claim results of an experiment that you have not run. 

Will: Like p value is, is 

Kristin: You don’t even know what p value is, really. 

Will: Like the type one error No, 

Kristin: you’re out of your depth.

Will: You have a very underpowered study. [00:26:00] 

Kristin: Uh huh. 

Will: I’m just throwing out buzzwords. 

Kristin: Yeah, I know. 

Will: Anyway, I go with the BIC. What kind of pens do you guys go with? Because I think the BIC is just the standard BIC. I just am 

Kristin: really tired of the ballpoint pen. Too boring. Too commonplace. 

Will: Really? 

Kristin: Too, I’m burned out on ballpoint.

Will: Some people like spend a lot of money on pens. 

Kristin: I know. 

Will: That’s one thing. These 

Kristin: aren’t cheap. 

Will: How much are you paying for those? I mean, 

Kristin: look, any pen is not that expensive, but as pens go, these are probably more than a Bic. 

Will: Yeah, I imagine so. I wonder what our pen budget is in this house. 

Kristin: You have, because you’re not that observant, like, that’s not an insult, that’s just like something that you know about yourself, right?

Will: Yeah, of course. 

Kristin: We have a daughter the same way. Uh, you haven’t noticed, ever, how many Sharpies we have in this house. 

Will: Oh, I have. Oh, we have a ton of Sharpies. Between the 

Kristin: ultra fine points, and then the like regular kind, [00:27:00] and then the kids even like the really fat chunky ones, but see, you’re outnumbered.

That’s three to one on Sharpies in this house. 

Will: Give me a bick. Give me a bick. That’s it. I’ve had in the past, I’ve had expensive, I’ve been gifted expensive pins, lose them immediately. Really. 

Kristin: Yeah, 

Will: you lose them like there’s no I don’t understand the people that that own expensive pens expensive people You are a different breed.

You are totally you’re I don’t I don’t get it I don’t understand how you can have spent a lot of money on a pen It’s just gonna get lost 

Kristin: because there are some people out there who don’t lose everything they own 

Will: impossible No, it is not possible to not I’m 

Kristin: I’m one of those people. I have carried these pens From house to house, I think we’re on move number three of this set of pens.

Will: All right. 

Kristin: And you know how I don’t lose it? I forbid any one of you to touch my things. 

Will: All right, I’m gonna, I’m gonna be keeping an eye on our pen budget in this house. Alright, one more thing we want to talk about before we go. We need to do another character lore I think people liked hearing the lore about [00:28:00] Jonathan And I just dropped a little bit of lore in a recent Father’s Day video 

Kristin: Ortho.

Will: Actually, I didn’t drop, I didn’t drop new lore, but it is a callback to previous lore. 

Kristin: Okay 

Will: So the question that I have for those of you watching or listening, uh, do you remember the names of the orthopedic surgeon of ortho bro’s children? So I, I divulged this bit of information during ortho goes to therapy.

That video I posted probably a couple of years ago now. Uh, and then I, it was a callback today or not today, but recently when I posted the, the father’s day video. 

Kristin: I like that you even, uh, gave one of them a nickname, like you shortened it. 

Will: Do you like that? I like that. So the, the orthos, orthos children are named, uh, Fibula and Femur.

Kristin: Yes. 

Will: Femur was, is the, the, the prize child, [00:29:00] Fibula the one, no, not so good. Yeah. Yeah. A little bit. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: So, and then, uh, the, the 

Kristin: Fibula goes by, uh, Fibby, naturally. 

Will: There was one comment on YouTube that I really appreciated that was, um, a Fibby. Should be twins with tibia. Oh 

Kristin: yeah. 

Will: Tibia, right? Tibia. They should be 

Kristin: twins.

You’re right. So, 

Will: but then how do I incorporate that into the lore without it seeming like, ortho just forgot that he had a third child. Well, 

Kristin: because tibia is clearly the black sheep of the family. So don’t talk about her. 

Will: Well, it’s not, but it’s the opposite. Flesh 

Kristin: him. I don’t know what 

Will: t tibia. Tibia is.

The, the, the load bearing bone of the lower leg. It’s femur and tibia fibula. 

Kristin: Uh, 

Will: who cares, yeah, it’s an accessory. Well, then 

Kristin: Tivy is the one who carries all the work of the household and no one appreciates. It’s too bad she’s not, maybe that’s the mother! 

Will: Underappreciated Tivy is. Maybe that’s 

Kristin: Ortho’s wife.[00:30:00] 

Will: This wife is Tibby. What, how fortunate for the orthopedic surgeon to find a woman named Tibia. Amazing. Amazing. I like that though, because, and then Tibia is overshadowed by Femur because Femur gets all the attention. Meanwhile, Tibia is just down there. We all 

Kristin: know those kids that just suck up all the attention in the room, right?

Will: You know, our kids are going to listen to this one day. Yeah, I didn’t say 

Kristin: it was them. I said, we all know kids like that. That they exist. Our kids know kids like that. 

Will: That’s true. That’s true. Um, and then obviously the orthopedic surgeon’s, uh, dad is also an orthopedic surgeon. 

Kristin: Mm-Hmm. . What’s his name? 

Will: He doesn’t have one.

He’s Dad. Dad, bro. Dad bro. Dad, bro. Mm. Dad bro. Uh, son bro. 

Kristin: Mom bro. 

Will: Mom bro. People think, uh, I , it’s funny, I’ve gotten talking about. controversies. Um, I have been, uh, received pushback [00:31:00] very, very occasionally because people are saying like, not all orthopedic surgeons are bros. 

Kristin: Oh, like there are female orthopedic, there are female orthopedic surgeons.

Well, they’re bros too. 

Will: They are bros. Yeah. See that, that’s, that’s the thing that, that’s the point I wanna make. 

Kristin: Yeah. Like the ob, GYN is lady bro. 

Will: Bro is, is a 

Kristin: right. 

Will: Is is a, just to a, a gender neutral term. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: Anybody can be a bro. In orthopedic surgery world. 

Kristin: Yeah, 

Will: right. That’s how I That’s how 

Kristin: the kids these days are using it, right?

Like Our 

Will: kids call you bro. I mean all the 

Kristin: kids do like just anything and everyone is bro It’s even just like an exclamation. That’s true. They’re not even talking about or to a person. It’s just like bro. 

Will: Yeah 

Kristin: So yeah, anyone can be a bro Is that merch? 

Will: Anybody, anybody can be a bro merch. Everyone’s a bro, I don’t know.

Kristin: Anyone can be a bro. Salt 

Will: bro, feelings bro, kid [00:32:00] bro, eye bro, John bro. John bro, yeah. Uh, x ray bro, that’s another one. I don’t have a, oh, bug bro. Bug bro, yeah. Bug bro is infectious disease. What other bros do I have? There’s lady bro, that was when you, you showed up as OBGYN. 

Kristin: I’d like, I would like to know more about Ortho’s, um, backstory, you know, like how did he get to be how he is?

Cause he’s, he’s a very lovable 

Will: human being. What makes an orthopedic surgeon? Is it, are you born an ortho bro or do you become an ortho bro along the way? 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: Um, I am very excited for some of the things that I can, I will be able to do with ortho bro coming up. I, I’ve been in contact with a medical, um, models company.

They like make 

Kristin: Like anatomical models, not like humans that are beautiful. 

Will: No, definitely not. They would not contact me. No, [00:33:00] a, a, a model anatomy. I should say anatomy, not like, it’s like anatomy models. 

Kristin: Yes, yes. 

Will: And, uh, there’s some very fun things that we can do with Ortho using anatomy models. So, uh, stay tuned for that.

That’s, that’s very, that’s very fun. Exciting. Uh, but yeah, maybe I should, I could explore Ortho’s backstory a little bit more. Yeah, 

Kristin: I wanna know where, cause there’s also a little bit of a surfer vibe. 

Will: What do you guys wanna know? Like, when did 

Kristin: he surf? And would he surf as Ortho? 

Will: Good, good question. In the first, very first ortho video, I, I wore a kayaking hat called, it’s a boof on it, which is a kayak, kayaking term.

You boof something, you just like, boof. Kind of shoot out of the water and land. Boof. 

Kristin: Oh, okay. I think that’s what that means. What if you just made that up? 

Will: No, that’s a real thing. Boof. Google boof kayaking. B O O F. So, anyway. I don’t know. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: So, clearly he kayaks. 

Kristin: Yeah, there’s some water in his [00:34:00] history.

Yeah, exactly. 

Will: His accent, his 

Kristin: hat. Boof. 

Will: Yeah, what is that? I don’t even know what that is. It’s not even an accent. It’s like the bro accent. Yeah, I don’t know what it is. 

Kristin: I don’t I mean, yeah, maybe that’s 

Will: like a California. It’s not 

Kristin: an accent. Maybe it’s more of just a, I don’t know what it would be. 

Will: Yeah, 

Kristin: kind of Californian, kind of surfer dude.

Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

Kristin: Surfer bro. 

Will: What other question, what other backstory questions do you guys have? Would that be a board bro? A board bro? Yeah. Surfer bro? Uh 

Kristin: huh. 

Will: Yeah. Board bro. That could be like a, like an admin person. Yeah. Admin bro is another one. Oh, CE bro. 

Kristin: Oh yeah, you were proud of that one. We had 

Will: CE bro.

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: For CEO. CE bro. I was very proud of that. All right, let’s I 

Kristin: feel like Ortho used to be, uh, less smart. Like early, um 

Will: Oh yeah, that’s a good point. So that’s the thing with Ortho is, is I, you know, I don’t want any of the physicians in this fictional hospital who look like me to, um, to [00:35:00] seem dumb. 

Kristin: Right.

Will: Like I’m, that’s not my point. I don’t want, cause you know, that, that feels bad to the, I don’t want to make, you know, my colleagues in medicine feel bad about the portrayal. It’s real hard to 

Kristin: get to any, you know, career in medicine if you’re like, nobody’s done 

Will: medicine. But, uh, but it’s easy for ortho to come across that way.

And so I, I had made a concerted effort a while back to like, Drop some like ortho knowledge in the videos to make it seem like it’s not so much that he’s he’s dumb He’s not dumb, 

Kristin: right? 

Will: He knows very 

Kristin: chill 

Will: what he likes. Yeah, he knows what he knows what his limits are And he also knows how to get what he wants.

Kristin: Yeah, he knows how to get out of things. Which 

Will: is for medicine to admit all his patients. So in a way, and he’s honestly probably the smartest person in the hospital. 

Kristin: Probably, yeah. 

Will: But he’s, he’s, he’s got a little manipulation going on under the surface there, so. 

Kristin: Some of the like, Appearing dumb is probably intentional.[00:36:00] 

Will: That’s right. Yeah. So that people don’t ask you to do things. Weaponized incompetence. That’s what we call that. But, uh, but I did, I have tried to like incorporate actual terminology around Bones, just to, to, to show off his, his, his, what he knows about, which is Bones. And not much else. Similar to ophthalmology.

So I do the same thing for my ophthalmologist character. I haven’t done an ophthalmology one in a while. Hey, Jonathan. People are yearning for Jonathan content. So I gotta, I gotta get on that. That’s your lore. That’s your lore for this episode of Glock Talk. Let’s take a quick break. We’ll come back with a fan story.

So we have a story from Margaret. Margaret says, uh, true story from my small town and critical access hospital in Washington State. A slightly demented wild turkey rooster adopted our town and was seen strutting up and down Main Street for a whole summer. That’s a great way to start a story. It really 

Kristin: is!

It really 

Will: is! A slightly [00:37:00] demented wild turkey rooster. Occasionally this 

Kristin: Spreading up and down Main Street. Only 

Will: slightly demented. Just slightly. Mostly all still there, but just a little bit gone. Occasionally this slightly demented wild turkey rooster would fly, quote, in quotes, fly into a rage and attack car tires.

Waiting to cross the intersection. Still, he was a beloved mascot. And when an out of towner hit him 

Kristin: on 

Will: accident, I assume, uh, he was a full coat case, 

Kristin: sadly, 

Will: he succumbed to his injuries. 

Kristin: Oh, 

Will: his death was front page news in our newspaper. That is, I love that story. I’m sure that slightly demented wild turkey rooster, whatever his name is.

Or her, uh, was No, it’s a 

Kristin: rooster! 

Will: Oh, oh, right. Oh my 

Kristin: goodness. 

Will: I knew that. You can tell 

Kristin: which [00:38:00] one of us grew up in the city. 

Will: Totally knew that. Totally knew. Roosters are male.

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Kristin: are your longstanding arguments? Oh, that’s a good one.

And maybe we can debate them and see if we can settle it. 

Will: Yeah, you and your, and your significant other or your spouse. Or 

Kristin: colleagues. 

Will: Or colleagues, what are you guys fighting about? Other specialties. Maybe we can chime in, maybe we can, we can, we can uh, uh, pivot this podcast into like a, uh. 

Kristin: Advice. An 

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Kristin: have to still actually enunciate. Your speech is starting to sound a lot like your writing looks. 

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Kristin: knock, goodbye.

Will: Kristen, what would you say is the most important part of my job as an ophthalmologist? 

Kristin: Helping people see better. 

Will: That’s a much better answer than getting home at five o’clock every day. 

Kristin: Yeah. I mean, I do like that part too. That’s good. 

Will: The most important part of my job is not clinical documentation.

Kristin: Right. That is the most worst part of your job. 

Will: I have to do it. It’s important, but I like doing other things too. Like restoring eyesight, talking to my patients, developing those relationships. 

Kristin: Looking at them in the eyes. Yes. 

Will: You know, it helps me do that. The DAX co pilot. Yeah. It’s this ambient technology, AI powered.

It helps me actually like maintain those relationships. I can actually develop. Uh, a rapport [00:43:00] with patients that you can’t do otherwise. People 

Kristin: tend to prefer it when you’re looking at them when you talk instead of typing. 

Will: 80 percent of patients say their physician is more focused with DAX Copilot. 85 percent say their physician is more personable and conversational.

Kristin: Well, how about that? You could use a little help in that area. I 

Will: need a little, a little boost from time to time. To learn more about the Nuance Dragon Ambient Experience or DAX Copilot, visit nuance. com slash discover DAX. That’s N U A N C E dot com slash discover D A X.