Glauc Talk: Eyeball Transplant, Alternate Reality, & Why Are You Like This?

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Will: [00:00:00] Knock, knock, hi! Knock, knock, hi!

Hello everybody, welcome to Knock, Knock, Hi! with the Glockenfleckens. I am Dr. Glockenflecken. 

Kristin: I am Lady Glockenflecken. Well, 

Will: I’m Kristen Flannery coming to you for another episode of 

Kristin: Glock Talk! 

Will: Glock Talk! The talking of the Glocks. Glock to Glock talking. And so, uh, we got some fun little, uh, um, segments for you today.

Have But first I’ve got a little bit of a bone to pick with you. 

Kristin: Mm hmm. Let me just set the 

Will: stage here What happened this past weekend? 

Kristin: Oh dear 

Will: So I am I think at the time I was like going out to feed the dog and water the dog and everything Okay, and our youngest Comes screaming down the stairs Screaming daddy.

Daddy. It’s like what? [00:01:00] Mommy needs you. It’s an emergency It’s an emergency. No, she said it was an emergency And my, my initial thought was like, like, what, what on earth? Like, I was 

Kristin: in the shower. 

Will: Right. So I was like, oh, yeah, that’s right. You were in the shower. Did I 

Kristin: fall? 

Will: Did you fall down? Were you like unconscious, bleeding all over the house?

Like what was going on? Like, oh my God, an emergency, like emergencies in our house. are like, like, I’m having a cardiac arrest. We’ve had 

Kristin: some real emergencies. A 

Will: type of emergency. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: And so I’m, I’m kind of freaking out. I’m like, okay. So I, I, I just dropped what I was doing. I was, uh, you know, Milo was, was like, what the hell?

Are you not going to feed me? Like, what’s the deal? I thought I was getting food. But I like stopped what I was doing is I race upstairs. Uh, and then I get into the bathroom And, and Kristen’s like, there’s a bug on the ceiling. 

Kristin: No. No. Yes. In my defense, 


Kristin: didn’t say there’s a bug. I said, [00:02:00] is that a spider?

Will: There was, there was a small mosquito like object 

Kristin: on the ceiling above her 

Will: in the, in the shower. 

Kristin: I, as you know, am blind as a bat when I don’t have my, um, glasses on, contacts in, which is the case in the shower because you have told me I’m not allowed to wear contacts. in showers that that’s not a good idea because of bacteria or something.

I don’t know. 

Will: It doesn’t matter, you know. 

Kristin: Whatever. Anyway, so now I have to take a shower half blind and I just saw a black dot on the ceiling that was about the size of the spiders around here and it was moving like it was in one spot and I clocked it and I’m like, okay. Can’t tell if that’s just like a speck on the ceiling or if that’s a bug, so you know And then I looks later, and it was in a different spot, and I’m in the shower It’s a very vulnerable situation to be in the shower where a [00:03:00] spider could just drop down onto your body And so You wash 

Will: it away 

Kristin: But you know how I am, like, legitimately arachnophobic, 

Will: so 

Kristin: to me, it’s a big deal.

Will: There’s no I don’t mind You signed 

Kristin: on for this. I know, 

Will: I’m the bug killer of know what, 

Kristin: you married. 

Will: It’s under the pretense of this being an emergency. 

Kristin: Well, I didn’t tell her to say that. I just said, Go get dad and ask him to come quickly, because I didn’t want it to get away. 

Will: Best. I think the best part was as I was taking the stairs, like two at a time, our daughter says, she’s really scared.

I think it was at that point that Yeah, but then I got there and it was the smallest little thing you could possibly See, and if I had 

Kristin: been able to see it and know it, I wouldn’t have bothered you with it. But it just really I think you with it. Could have been a spider. 

Will: Yeah, I guess we have to have a family meeting [00:04:00] about what constitutes an emergency and what’s not.

Yeah, I 

Kristin: didn’t tell her to say that I was scared, and I didn’t tell her to say it was an emergency. That was all her. I got up there knows that about me. I smashed that bug. And knows that I must have been scared. Which is very sweet, I think. 

Will: Yeah, that’s true. 

Kristin: You did, you smashed the bug. I did. You saved the day.

Will: Also I guess I’ve never really thought about, like, all my patients that have to shower without any boxes or conta I, aren’t you, isn’t it most muscle memory though? Like, you just know? Well, 

Kristin: sometimes it’s like my shampoo and my conditioner are exactly the same, so I have to be like You know, like put it right up to my face, uh, you know, stuff like that.

That’s just, or, you know, 

Will: it should be, I mean, you’re nearsighted already, so that’s good. 

Kristin: Yeah, but then it’s, I tell you what, 

Will: once you’re in your forties, 

Kristin: uh huh. 

Will: Then 

Kristin: later this year, 

Will: that’s true. Once you’re, I say, once you’re in your late forties, uh, that you wouldn’t even want to wear contacts in the shower because then you won’t be able to see up close.

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All right, should we get to our healthcare news? 

Kristin: Oh good, some more really depressing things. Sure, let’s do it. 

Will: Alright, here we go. This is actually not depressing. I chose a non depressing thing. 

Kristin: Oh, thank goodness. 

Will: And it’s actually not like, like breaking news. This has actually happened in November of this year.

But you know, reasonably, you know. 

Kristin: So, healthcare [00:06:00] events. 

Will: Yes. Alright, so this is the news. Back in November at NYU Langone, I think it’s Langone, Langone? I’m not sure how to pronounce that. 


Will: hospital. We’re gonna 

Kristin: sound real stupid again. 

Will: They transplanted an entire eyeball. 

Kristin: We didn’t, I feel like we’ve talked about this.

Will: I don’t know. Did we? Well, we’re going to talk about it again. 

Kristin: All right. 

Will: Because, uh, this 

Kristin: maybe, maybe that was just me and you. 

Will: It might’ve been, but this, this does, it actually comes up relatively frequently in clinic, like people are like, are you, are you transplanting eyeballs yet? Right, like they 

Kristin: saw it in the news and now they’re bringing up a small topic.

Yeah, right. 

Will: You got, and, and these are the types of things that like, they come into in and out of the news cycle, like every so often, like they’ll see someone made a TikTok about it or it’s a Facebook post, but oh, they’re transplanting eyeballs now. And it gets, it’s totally taken out of context. And then you got.

People that come in to see me in clinic, they’re like, 

Kristin: they want an eyeball transplant. Can I get, can I get, and this one’s a dud. Gimme a new one. Can I get 

Will: one of the eyeball transplants? Yeah. Can we do that? Um, and [00:07:00] so I thought we could talk about it. 

Kristin: Yeah. Can you give me some eyeballs that work so I don’t have to call you up to kill spiders?


Will: no. Absolutely not. But what, this is actually pretty, pretty cool what they did. Okay. So first of all, it was a team of 140 surgeons. 

Kristin: Wow. 

Will: That we’re working on this thing. These 

Kristin: are all ophthalmologists? It’s like 

Will: all the surgeons in the world. No, not all. I was going 

Kristin: to say, because that’s a lot of chairs to fit around one patient.

Will: That would be a lot of chairs. We’d figure out a way to do it though. So no, it was not because it’s, it was 140 surgeons because they were doing like a, it was like a partial face and eyeball transplant. All right. So it wasn’t just the eyeball. The reason this is, this is huge is because it was like a, kind of a proof of concept type of surgery.

[singers]: Mm hmm. 

Will: So they were able to show that you could transplant the tissue of the eyeball into another person. Okay. And have the eye survive in terms of blood flow. Okay. Alright, so [00:08:00] like, the body didn’t immediately reject the eye. Right. Uh, the, the retina had blood flow to it. Mm hmm. And the cornea was clear.

That’s big, that’s huge, that tells you right there, like those are two, probably the two most important, sorry, two of the three most important parts of the eye for having clear vision. 

Kristin: Okay. The 

Will: cornea. And the retina. 

Kristin: The third would be the lens? 

Will: No, the third, a lens is important, but a third is the optic nerve.

Kristin: Oh, well, sure. 

Will: That’s the problem. So, even though they were able to successfully transplant this eye. 

Kristin: I never think of the optic nerve as part of the eyeball. 

Will: Yeah, well, you know, because the vision is a, a brain generated thing. Like, you got to have a functioning eye, but it’s the brain that really processes the images.

Well, it’s just like all the senses. Correct. Well, but this is the most important sense. But anyway, uh, the optic nerve is very important because it connects the eye to the brain and we still don’t have a way of, of connecting a new optic [00:09:00] nerve to a brain or an eye to a new optic nerve. So that, that’s still, we’re not quite there yet.

They’ve tried to do like stem cell, uh, transplants, you know, like growing stem cells in a way that can regenerate an optic nerve. Why is 

Kristin: it, why is it hard to do that? 

Will: Like, what 

Kristin: is it about the nerve? If they can do it with all the rest of the eyeball, what is it about the nerve itself, the optic nerve?

Will: Well, with everything else, it’s more, it’s more about connecting the blood supply. Which you can do, it’s just like connecting two hoses together, right? It’s just tubes, you’re just, you’re supplying blood. And can you, can you avoid rejection of the tissue? Like, will the new host, like, recognize that as itself.

Right. This is a different problem than trying to regenerate a tissue like nervous tissue, which The cells, God, now you’re really testing me in terms of my biology. I don’t like this. I don’t like this at [00:10:00] all. Something about pluripotency and multipotency and omnipotency. I don’t know if omnipotent, um, um, omnipotent, uh, stem cells.

I don’t, I don’t know, but the point is, I think it’s something like when cells, when neurons, uh, they enter their final form, they can’t change or something. You’re making me sound like an idiot here, okay? This is 

Kristin: really proving that your characters are 100 percent based on research that you do right before the video.

Will: You can’t regenerate an optic nerve, that’s the point, okay? Okay, okay. Just like you can’t do a brain transplant, because the eye is essentially a part of the brain. 

Kristin: Right, that part of the eye, specifically. But 

Will: this did show that you can transplant an eyeball, which has never been done. Yeah, that’s cool.

Yeah, and so, and uh, shout out to the patient. Uh, Aaron James, who is listed in this, uh, news report that I’m reading from the American Academy of Ophthalmology, uh, he said he understood his, uh, [00:11:00] his role in advancing research. He said, even if it doesn’t work, I’ll have an eye and it’ll at least be normal looking.

Kristin: Well, yeah, that’s a way to see the silver lining. No pun intended. 

Will: That’s right. Uh, and you can learn something off of this. And so, yeah, that’s absolutely true. I think, uh, Now, what’s the feasibility of having 140 surgeons, you know, doing a transplant? 

Kristin: Well, hopefully once they figure it out, you, you know, the idea is it would take fewer and fewer the better we get at it.

Will: That’s true. That’s hopeful. Hopefully that’s the case. We’ll get it done to a reasonable number of chairs. But now I can, when patients come in and they ask me, hey, can you transplant an eye, can I just get a new eye? I’ll be like, well, that can be done, but it doesn’t give you vision yet. So we have not Won’t 

Kristin: be able to see.

Will: Even in animal models. They have not figured out a way to restore any kind of vision. 

Kristin: What about other You’re not going to know the answer to this, I don’t know why I’m even asking, but other other nerves, besides the optic nerve, like what can we do with nerves? 

Will: So there is actually a cool thing we can do with [00:12:00] nerves.

What? With the eye. 

Kristin: Always with the eye. 

Will: So, um, there’s, well, it’s not a transplant from a, from a cadaver or something, but basically there’s a disease called, uh, neuro, neurotropic keratitis. So basically. It’s a neuropathy of the surface of the eye. So you lose, you lose nerve function of the surface of the eye.

Okay. Then close, involving the cornea. So the cornea is very sensitive. So what are 

Kristin: your nerves doing on the cornea other than, are they just like detecting, hey, something’s close, close the eye. 

Will: Although they’re detecting, they’re like pain. Well, they’re doing several things, but pain sensation is a big one.

Kristin: Like something’s in your eye, get it out. 

Will: So when you have a When you have neuropathy, when you have those nerves that for a variety of different reasons, they can just die off. There’s different diseases that cause this. You lose that. What’ll happen is the cornea will get cloudy. All right. Well, [00:13:00] there’s a procedure now that’s not done very frequently, but you take the sural nerve, which is a nerve in your leg, and you connect that nerve to the supraorbital nerve.

I think that’s the one. So you’re doing a connection with your own body, your own nerve. And that supplies new nerve input to the cornea. Are you, are 

Kristin: you resecting the nerve in your leg? Okay. 

Will: And you’re connecting it. And it up. You’re moving it up to a nerve on your eye. And then connecting the end of the nerve to the cornea.

And then in some cases, it’ll restore function of the cornea. That’s pretty wild. 

Kristin: That is pretty. That’s pretty wild. So, do they know why that works? 

Will: I don’t know. Or do they just know 

Kristin: that it works? 

Will: They know why it works? Stop asking why. 

Kristin: It’s what I do. It just works, okay? She’s like my fourth grade math teacher.

When I asked why it works, she said, In math, [00:14:00] we don’t ask why. We just do it. Math is a little bit different than 

Will: the human body, than biology. Sometimes, in medicine, we just do things and they work, and then we figure out why they work later. 

Kristin: That’s disconcerting. 

Will: Well, but it works, right? At least it works, alright.

Alright, that’s enough about transplants. I am not a transplant specialist. Transcription 

Kristin: But that’s, that’s very cool. 

Will: Isn’t it cool? I thought it was cool. Okay. That’s your health news for today. So what I thought we could do now is, um, a little top five. 

Kristin: Top 5. Top 5. 

Will: We’re gonna do some Top 5. So, the premise here We need like 

Kristin: little theme songs for these segments.

We do. 

Will: Let’s get our producers on this. They 

Kristin: need more to do. 

Will: Let’s, let’s, yeah, let’s give us a little Top 5, Top 5, Top 5. I don’t know, something, something fun. All right, so what I thought we could do is, uh, let’s pretend we’re in a world where A world. Let’s go back in time, but we still have all the knowledge that we have now.

Kristin: Okay. 

Will: Okay. 

Kristin: If I knew then what I know now. Yes. 

Will: We’re going back in [00:15:00] time before I chose ophthalmology as a specialty. 

Kristin: Okay. 

Will: And we’re having a conversation. I’m in med school. 

Kristin: Yeah, I remember these conversations. 

Will: Yep. And so we’re talking about what I want to be. So I asked you to, to list the top five specialties that you would want me to choose based on all the information you know now.

Kristin: Yes. 

Will: And then I did the same. If ophthalmology wasn’t an option, if, uh, we didn’t have eyeballs for whatever reason, what would we choose? So, let’s go from five to one. 

Kristin: Okay, I want to do this caveat though, that at the time, it was very supportive and just said whatever you want to do, I will support you.

Will: Okay. 

Kristin: Okay. I just need the people to know that that was the real answer. 

Will: It was. Before 

Kristin: we get into this game. 

Will: You were, but now, you’ve got, you have a lot of knowledge, a lot of things you’ve learned. Probably learned a thing or two about the different specialties from my [00:16:00] videos, I would guess. 

Kristin: Do I watch your videos?

Where else, where else 

Will: did you get, you watch them. Oh, please, you watch them. 

Kristin: Only because you make me. You 

Will: absolutely watch them. Every time you 

Kristin: do one, I have to watch it. 

Will: Alright, so, so where you went, uh, we’re gonna go five to one. I’ll let you go first. 

Kristin: Okay, five to one. 

Will: Just do five, and then I’ll do five, and then we’ll Okay, 

Kristin: alternate?

Will: Yep. 

Kristin: Okay, number five. 

Will: Yes. 

Kristin: P, M, and R. 

Will: P, M, and R was my number four. Oh! 

Kristin: Yeah! Look at that! That’s 

Will: right. So why’d you choose that? 

Kristin: Uh, well, one, because we are getting old, and that would have been useful. But two, because, and I did not know this back then, but now I know, that I am somewhere on the problematic end of the hypermobility spectrum, and I feel like that could be really, you could be helpful to me.


Will: was a very selfish choice for you. A 

Kristin: hundred percent. 

Will: Yes. Okay. I know 

Kristin: nothing about the lifestyle of a PMNR physician. I just want you to be able to help me. 

Will: So [00:17:00] I. When I was in, at the end of med school, like, choosing what specialty I wanted to do, I had, I didn’t even know PM& R existed. 

Kristin: Yeah, I didn’t know that.

I did learn that from your videos. I didn’t know about it. That’s 

Will: how under the radar this specialty is. Like, it’s not talked about. We’ll see what 

Kristin: it stands for. 

Will: Oh, Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation. 

Kristin: And how is that different from a physical therapist? I still don’t really understand that. Okay, 

Will: so. Is it different?

Yeah, oh yeah, very different. So, they work together. Okay. But, uh, uh, a, a physical medicine, a rehab physician went to med school, and so they’re, they do a lot of, um, you know, I think of them as, as doing a lot of, like, inpatient rehab stuff. And, Um, just like any specialty in the hospital has like a multidisciplinary team.

I think they work well with like, like occupational therapists and physical therapists. But what do they do that 

Kristin: differentiates them from the rest of the team? What is that? You don’t know. 

Will: I don’t. I don’t know. I don’t. I don’t know. [00:18:00] 

Kristin: Do you need to like go turn your power off and back on again? Just reset?

I don’t know. See? Need a little reboot? 

Will: I don’t know. And I know I feel really bad that you’re asking me this and I don’t, I don’t know exactly. 

Kristin: Someone tell us in the comments. Well, 

Will: so they, I know that they are very active in, in, in, they’re like the lead in the rehab process for. Uh, anybody coming out of the hospital who’s, who needs to be, who needs recovery either from like a stroke, heart attack, uh, some kind of like really difficult illness, they need to get back on their feet, the rehab physician is like the, the, the lead.

They like coordinate the therapy. I guess another way to 

Kristin: ask the question would be like, what medicine is involved in rehabilitation? 

Will: It’s like, uh, limbs and joints and, and muscle groups and, and you’re just basically trying to 

Kristin: Those are body parts. Oh, 

Will: oh, they do. Oh, I see what you’re saying. [00:19:00] 

Kristin: Well, I 

Will: didn’t know what you were asking about.

So they, they do a lot of like, there’s a lot of Botox involved. That’s one thing they do. Okay, yeah, 

Kristin: for the muscle. Yep. 

Will: There’s um, you know, other, uh, I don’t know, muscle, uh, probably some steroid injections involved. I, you know, I’m not totally sure. I’m not a rehab specialist. I just made two videos once about them.

Kristin: Okay, well you put it as your number four, so I thought maybe you 

Will: knew something. The reason, the main reason, is because they, there’s, they have incredible job satisfaction. Oh. Like because their patients are They’re helping their patients get back on their feet and do their normal activities of daily living.

That does 

Kristin: make you very happy. Yeah, like my physical therapist is one of my favorite people. 

Will: So I don’t know like totally what the whole scope of their job, but I do know that the patients that they’re treating Are incredibly thankful for what they do because it’s helping them get back to normal after like a severe illness, 

[singers]: right?

Will: So That’s the main reason I chose it. Also, of course, [00:20:00] of course, it’s a great work life balance, too So, you know, no knowing what I know now how important that is to me Well, 

Kristin: yeah, glockenspiel if you didn’t have a 

Will: so that was my number four. 

Kristin: Okay, 

Will: my number five 

Kristin: Yeah, what was five 

Will: dermatology? Oh, 

Kristin: okay 

Will: It’s derma it’s you know, because I like I like outpatient I get the, the, the, the inpatient, you know, not knowing.

I like having, knowing that there’s going to be an end to my day. Like when that’s going to be. 

[singers]: Yeah. 

Will: I like structure and my, and my work life and how fast paced clinic is. I like clinics. Some people hate clinics. You need 

Kristin: to go fast. You like to go fast. 

Will: I love clinic, um, and, uh, much more than inpatient medicine.

So, so I wanted to, I figured I’d stay, even though skin, yeah, not great, but I could learn to tolerate it. 

Kristin: Would better than teeth? 

Will: Oh, yeah. Oh, oh, no dent dentistry bottom of the list Absolutely, not. I don’t [00:21:00] even actually 

Kristin: your spiders 

Will: actually now that you’re your 

Kristin: teeth spiders 

Will: Okay. No, I’m not like I’m not gonna be like a teeth 

Kristin: emergency 

Will: Um, no, but now that I think, uh, now that you’ve reminded me how much I don’t enjoy the mouth and teeth, I’m regretting one of my choices later.

But anyway, so dermatology has been number five. What was your number four? 

Kristin: My, okay, so five, PM& R and dermatology. Four, you put PM& R. 


Kristin: put dermatology. Radiology. 

Will: Okay. Radiology was 

Kristin: No, you can’t tell me the number. No, shush. Oh, 

Will: all right. All right. 

Kristin: You just tell me the one we’re on. 

Will: All right. Gotcha. So yours was, um 

Kristin: Number four, radiology.

Because it’s still pretty good work life balance, uh, but mostly, so that would be the selfish one. 

Will: Yeah. 

Kristin: But then for you, um, you don’t have to talk to anyone. 

Will: That’s, that’s nice. 

Kristin: Yeah. You don’t like talking. Occasionally 

Will: you talk to people, but it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s not And 

Kristin: it’s like your [00:22:00] colleagues. You don’t have to like, 

Will: you know, yeah, yeah, yeah.


Kristin: you’re working with people, you get to know each other, you kind of know each other’s personalities if you’re a good person, bad person, whatever, right? So like eventually you can kind of just have the shorthand and I feel like that would be, that would work well for you. 

Will: Yeah. I, I, uh, I like radiology.

Um, it made my list. I’ll tell you later when it was, but, uh, it’s, I like the 

Kristin: You can’t tell me if it made your list. Okay. You’re ruining the surprise. Oh, fine. Okay. I like 

Will: the technology. I like the, uh, kind of work at your pace kind of aspect to it. Like, you just have a list of things, of scans you gotta go through, and you just gotta go through it.

Kristin: And that’s kind of how you preferred to learn all through school, right? And how you prefer to work. 

Will: And radiologists are known as, like, the doctor’s doctor. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: Like, they’re, they help other physicians with certain things. I kind of, I think I could get into that, so. 

Kristin: And you don’t have to deliver the bad news.

Will: Well, it depends on the type of radiology because remember I had a radiologist [00:23:00] that diagnosed me with cancer. So at ultrasound, that was a radiologist that came in and talked to us. So I think that’s a bit of a, of a mis, um, God, I’m having trouble with words today. That’s a misconception. That’s a misconception of radiology is that they, they don’t ever provide those diagnoses.

But they’re 

Kristin: not usually the one in the room. 

Will: Yeah, but, but they do, they do some of that. So anyway, but yeah, your point stands. Yeah. All right. Bye. Line number. So my number five was Dermatology, four was PM& R, three is Anesthesiology. 

Kristin: Okay, I thought about Anesthesia for you, but I did not put it because I thought you would take it really hard 

[singers]: like 

Kristin: if somebody died and it and I know you would feel like it was your fault and you would not be able to deal with that well, I think, because you beat yourself up about things.

Will: If I, if I make a mistake. That’s just the 

Kristin: type of thing you do. 

Will: I don’t know, I, I, But they, they get to sit down a lot. 

Kristin: You do. I 

Will: [00:24:00] do enjoy that. You know how much I like that. And they 

Kristin: get breaks. 

Will: They get breaks, and I’m more of a morning person. 

Kristin: It’s true. Like I’m okay getting up early. Right. And they gotta get up way early.

That was the reason I also didn’t put it was I don’t want to have to be the one to do all the morning tasks at home. 

Will: Okay. 

Kristin: Getting the kids off to school. 

Will: Fair enough. 

Kristin: Breakfast. You 

Will: Alright, what was your number? What was your next one? 

Kristin: Okay, number three, for me, for you, was urology. 

Will: Oh, really? 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: I don’t want to see that many penises.

I’m fine. I’m fine. Again, 

Kristin: really all of mine are kind of selfishly motivated because the reason that I put urology was, first of all, they have a good sense of humor. Okay, but more importantly, Then maybe you would have been able to 

Will: help yourself. Yeah, I could get free testosterone. With 

Kristin: your cancer. Yeah, I just 

Will: imagine they have a room full of all the testosterone in the world and just go and get fistfuls of testosterone whenever they want.

That would be, I didn’t think about that, but I don’t want [00:25:00] to, I don’t want to see like 30 penises a day. 

Kristin: Sure, but like what we talked about last time was that We didn’t know that there was like, advances in these treatments. Yeah, I know, I 

Will: get what you’re saying. That’s why I chose that one. That’s a good choice, but from my end, there’s many reasons why I didn’t make the list.

Kristin: I mean, it’s just like any other, I don’t know, like once you I don’t that your job? 

Will: I don’t want to do penis surgery. I mean, I know they do other things, but like, I just feel like 

Kristin: if that’s your job, you just, you stop. 

Will: You pick an organ. 

Kristin: It just becomes your job. That wouldn’t be high on my list of organs.

Why not? 

Will: I don’t know. You 

Kristin: have one. 

Will: Yeah, I have a lot of things, but it’s just me, I don’t want to specialize in it. All right. 

Kristin: Okay. 

Will: Interesting choice. 

Kristin: I just thought it would be useful and helpful for our family. 

Will: My number two. So the second, uh, my second most likely specialty I would go into, if not for ophthalmology, is pathology.

Kristin: Oh, yeah, that would have been a good one. For the same reasons as radiology. [00:26:00] 

Will: Yeah, pathology, I don’t know. People are 

Kristin: going to leave you 

Will: alone. People are happy and, and I don’t mind looking in microscopes. I do it all the time anyway. Like I have like five different microscopes I use on a daily basis. I think 

Kristin: that’s the thing people don’t realize about ophthalmologists, right?

Is like, That it’s all very microscope based. 

Will: Yeah, there’s lots of, you know, slit lamps. We got operating microscopes. We’ve got all these handheld little devices. So a lot of microscopes. So I don’t mind microscopes. And, uh, it’s kind of cool. Like, I don’t know, radiology or pathology seems cool. Yeah, and you 

Kristin: get to just, like, be alone in a basement all day and you don’t have to talk to anybody again.


Will: making wide, gross generalizations about pathologists. 

Kristin: Based on your skits, you said, based on what I know about your skits. 

Will: But they are very happy, though. They’re very happy. Yeah, they are, because nobody’s 

Kristin: bothering them. And I 

Will: could name, I would name a microscope. 

Kristin: Yeah, what would you name it? You already named one, I guess, in your skits.

But if you had to really name one in real life I’d like 

Will: Reginald. 

Kristin: Reginald. 

Will: Reginald. 

Kristin: Let’s call it Reggie for short. Yeah, I think 

Will: that’d [00:27:00] be a good name for a microscope. Every once in 

Kristin: a while when you’re bonding, you might say, Hey Reg. Hey Reg. 

Will: Yeah, exactly. Okay, what’s your number one? 

Kristin: No, no, no. I haven’t done my number two.

Will: Oh, number two. Sorry. 

Kristin: Number two. For you. Pediatrics. This is entirely selfish based. This has nothing to do with you. It 

Will: is because It is because 

Kristin: I would like you to be more helpful with knowing what is wrong with kids. Yes, and also They seem very happy and I would like for you to be happier 

Will: Fair enough Pediatrics just barely missed my list.

[singers]: Hmm. 

Will: So I cuz I I do like kids. I like I Think I could get into it. I could do like pediatric surgery. 

Kristin: We silly wouldn’t 

Will: mind that. Yeah 

Kristin: Yeah, you’re good with kids and you like the babies 

Will: My number one was radiology. So that, cause I almost chose radiology over ophthalmology. That was, that was like, right there.


Kristin: two you were trying to decide between. How 

Will: about you? 

Kristin: Uh, dermatology. 

Will: Ah, you chose derm first. Yeah, 

Kristin: because 

Will: Skin [00:28:00] care. I 

Kristin: would like skin care. 

Will: Yeah, you’re all over the skin care stuff. All right. 

Kristin: And also because very similar to radiology and ophthalmology. Good, good work life balance. 

Will: Okay. 

Kristin: You know, good salary, or 

Will: Yeah.

Kristin: Whatever you call it when you’re a doctor. 

Will: And I’d have the time to still be a clock employee. But 

Kristin: mostly the skin care, I would like for some free stuff. 

Will: All right, let’s take a break. We’ll come back with another segment.

Hey, Kristen. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: AI tools are everywhere now. 

Kristin: That is true, and they’re here to stay. That’s 

Will: right. Well, have you heard about precision? 

Kristin: What is it? This is 

Will: great. This is the first ever EHR integrated infectious disease AI platform. 

Kristin: That sounds useful. Infectious disease. 

Will: It’s a hard field. You got to figure out when to start antibiotics and, and try to, to decrease resistance and how long to keep the patient.

It’s really tough. 

[singers]: Yeah. Well, 

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All right. We are back, uh, and we’re going to do something that’s called, why are you like this? Because the last time we did, what was this? We did a similar one. We did 

Kristin: Why You’re Wrong. 

Will: Oh, yeah, that’s right. We did Why You’re So we’re gonna do Why Why are you Like this. Why are you like this? All right. So, um, do you wanna go first or me?

Kristin: Uh, okay. I’ll go first. Why do you put your clothing, when you have taken it off your body, you put it in in Little piles just around the house and one of those piles is [00:30:00] right next to your laundry hamper to the point that it is touching the sides and bottom of your laundry hamper but you just can’t quite seem to get it in there there’s no lid There’s no step you have to take to put it there versus on the floor, right next to it.

Will: Alright, I’ll tell you what And the 

Kristin: number of dirty socks that I have picked up from your side of the bed is disgusting. Why are you like this? 

Will: Because when I get ready for bed, and I brush my teeth, and I 

Kristin: Barrel into the bed. 

Will: Barrel into the bed. As if your 

Kristin: underwear are on fire. I don’t 

Will: have a, actually I don’t have a hamper next to my bed, right?

Kristin: Right, that’s one of your pile spots. 

Will: Right, so I, I just, when, as soon as I take my socks off and my pants and I 

Kristin: Okay, let me ask you this though. I 

Will: just want to get in bed, I don’t want to have to take Why can you 

Kristin: not take them off 

Will: In the bathroom before 

Kristin: Yes, you’re, we are brushing your teeth right [00:31:00] by your, where your hamper is.

You could take them off in there before you come into the bedroom. Well sometimes 

Will: I want to wear them again. 

Kristin: Your socks and your underwear. Well, not 

Will: the socks. Maybe the underwear. No, I, so, okay. I’ll tell you what, sometimes in the, like, in the morning when I’m getting, getting the shower, you are blocking the, the closet doorway.

Kristin: Uh huh. 

Will: And so, we’re 

Kristin: talking about nighttime. I 

Will: have to throw the things into the pile in their closet because I can’t reach my hamper. 

Kristin: I’m very tiny. You can step over me. 

Will: Okay, I think I know what answer you want. And yes, that is the answer. It’s laziness. That’s what it is. That’s that. If that’s what you’re getting at, you’re absolutely right.

Kristin: I’m not. I’m genuinely baffled. It is pure 

Will: Unadulterated laziness. But 

Kristin: that still doesn’t explain why you would not take them off in the bathroom versus in the bedroom. Cause that’s, 

Will: that’s requires [00:32:00] higher level thinking. 

Kristin: No, it’s just a habit. 

Will: No, I’m just, I just, A to B, like, Oh, get ready for bed. I go get in bed and on the way I get the clothes off.

So I, 

Kristin: I am not as organized as you. 

Will: It’s right there. 

Kristin: You’re right by it. I don’t think 

Will: about it. And so if I get out there to the bed and then I take off the socks, I don’t think There’s no way in hell I’m gonna turn around and walk the eight feet back to our, the hamper and put it in the hamper and then walk back to bed.

No, that’s too, too many steps. Okay. You 

Kristin: know what? You, you say this, you are like, oh, I don’t have a hamper by the bed. I have put hampers in every single place. Okay. I’ve done this before. I’ve run this experiment. Okay. All right. I have put the hampers everywhere. You put a pile and do you know what happens?

Will: I’d still make piles. 

Kristin: Right next to the hamper. 

Will: It’s gotta be some Why? It’s gotta be some kind of, uh, of, uh, evolutionary advantage to make piles. 

Kristin: Doesn’t make any sense! Well, like, you know Right [00:33:00] there! You know, the hamper contains a pile. Dogs dig holes, I make piles. The hamper contains a pile. You can still pile.

Pile in the hamper. 

Will: Um, I don’t have a good explanation for you, other than the, obviously, the laziness, um, tactic. 

Kristin: Why does it seem more appealing to put it on the floor next to the hamper than to just put it in the hamper? 

Will: I am a messy, messy person. 

Kristin: You prefer a mess. 

Will: I’m a mess. You prefer it that way. I’m a mess, and I, I have a one track mind.

My mind is not telling me, okay, uh, put your clothes away first and then get in bed. My mind is like, get in bed, and the clothes, doesn’t matter where they end up. 

Kristin: I could put a hamper. Every step of the way from the bathroom to your side of the bed and you would still pile it next to those hampers. Like 

Will: a hamper trough That goes from my side of the bed, like a urinal trough.

[singers]: Yes. 

Will: Yeah, it just goes right along my side of the bed All the way around into our bathroom into the closet. So 

Kristin: [00:34:00] you would like to sleep in a barn? 

Will: If that’s what it takes I’ll consider it. 

Kristin: All right. 

Will: All right. Can I give you mine? 

Kristin: Okay. 

Will: Why, why do you have to have so many pairs of shoes? 

Kristin: I don’t, I don’t have very many pairs of shoes.

Will: You have dozens of pairs. In fact, when it, so. 

Kristin: Take a deep breath. 

Will: You. I feel like you could fill up an entire closet just with your shoes. 

Kristin: So what you’ve just asked me is, why are you an average female? 

Will: Okay, so explain it to me. Like, why, what is the shoe thing? 

Kristin: It’s part of an outfit. 

Will: I have three pairs of shoes.

Kristin: Okay. I have, how many pairs of pants do I have? A bunch. How many shirts do I have? A bunch. How many blazers do I have? 

Will: A bunch. But shoes are not, shoes are something you could wear every day. 

Kristin: And I do wear for just like every day. I’ve got everyday shoes. 

Will: Okay. 

Kristin: Yes. [00:35:00] But then you might want different colors to be able to match different outfits.

Uh, you need, also part of the answer to this is the patriarchy because I am expected to dress a certain way as a female, right? When I like, you’re not professional unless You know, your dress their way, your hair’s their way, makeup’s their way. 

Will: podcast, you don’t notice, nobody sees your shoes. 

Kristin: It’s a video podcast, I’m not wearing any shoes.

Will: You’re making my point for me. So why even have them if you’re not gonna need them? 

Kristin: I do need them. I go out into the world and I do things. When? When we give keynotes, or do live shows, or I do things with the children, or I go for a walk, or I go do errands. Sometimes I leave this house to do my work. 

Will: I mean, it’s not so much that you, I understand the need for shoes, but it’s the sheer volume.

Kristin: Yeah, it’s because they’re part of the outfit. They’re not just a utility. They are, they are, um, it’s about color, [00:36:00] style, heel height. Because your pants, sometimes your pants are different lengths. And so you need like different size heels to balance that out. If you’re going to be doing a lot of walking or not.

Sometimes I need two pairs of shoes. And like when I used to work in an office and I would walk from the parking lot in my tennis shoes or my snow boots or whatever, and then I would change into heels or something once I got inside. That sounds 

Will: exhausting. 

Kristin: Then when I get home, I have house shoes because, you know, you want your feet to be warm, but Okay, you don’t want to bring your dirty shoes in the house So then I gotta have some of those.

Will: And this is why you need the bigger closet? 

Kristin: Among many other reasons. Yeah. 

Will: Okay. 

Kristin: Yes It’s part of your outfit. It is art. 

Will: I have props. I have props now So I might actually need a bigger closet than you 

Kristin: You don’t 

Will: if I leave 

Kristin: you leave a few props and I have already made you a system for that that you also do not Use that you put the props [00:37:00] next to look the drawers that I’ve built.


Will: I got I’m a mess I’m a mess. We’ve established this. 

Kristin: I Really don’t have as many shoes as a lot of women do though. I really don’t because I’m a woman I work from home. 

Will: Our oldest is starting to wear your shoes now. No, no, she’s outgrown her. No, now the younger 

Kristin: one is my size because I’m a very tiny foot.

Will: I guess that’s the one good thing Potentially about you having so many shoes is that we can maybe buy fewer shoes for them Because they can just take your shoes Yeah, the dozens of pairs that you don’t ever wear. 

Kristin: When our oldest was wearing that size I let her borrow my shoes all the time. 

Will: Okay, so it’s gonna save us money in the end.

Kristin: Until they’re, I mean, it’s only for like a few months at a time because they grow so fast. So if the younger one’s in them now, we’re, we’re looking at the end of that benefit. 

Will: So anyway, so that’s, that’s helpful. See, 

Kristin: you just don’t value. 

Will: You’re right, I don’t and I probably should. [00:38:00] 

Kristin: But also, I’ve been following a guy on Twitter who’s really 

Will: into like men’s fashion.

Oh, you have? I’ve learned a thing or two. I have. What got 

Kristin: into you there? 

Will: Well, he’s kind of funny. It’s, Oh, 

Kristin: there it is. Ok. 

Will: He’s kind of funny and, and it’s just, it’s just, It’s always fascinating when someone talks about a thing that they’re an expert in. 

[singers]: Yeah, 

Will: you know just like you’re listening to them talk and use they’re using strange words that you’ve never heard of before, right?

And so, uh, and so I’ve learned about some men’s fashion. What have 

Kristin: you learned? Tell me a thing or two. 

Will: About like what is a well fitting suit and what’s not a well fitting suit? Like you shouldn’t have a gap between the coat and your collar. Okay, and That the trend of like the tighter fitting suits. Yeah You Oh, why is that?

Because it restricts your movement. And sometimes as you’re if you’re wearing a suit, you’ll be in different positions. You’ll do different things and welcome 

Kristin: to all of women’s fashion 

Will: Oh, these aren’t these aren’t new topics. These aren’t new concepts. Okay. All right. Anyway, check out [00:39:00] the guys like I think it’s work No, I forgot his name.

Anyway, he’s like he’s like the men’s fashion guy on Twitter He’s got like a ton of followers. But anyway, 

Kristin: yeah, 

Will: I’m learning a thing or two. Well good still not gonna buy more shoes 

Kristin: I wish you would. I wish you had more shoes. 

Will: Half of my shoes are hand me downs from my uncle. 

Kristin: Oh my gosh. And they’re from, like, the 80s.


Will: pretty old. High quality, though. Alright, that was fun. That was Why Are You Like This? A segment surely not to cause an indoor marriage. Um, alright. Let’s see, I guess let’s take one more break, we’ll come back with a fan story, shall we? 

Kristin: Alright, let’s do it.

Will: Hey, Kristen. 

Kristin: Yeah? 

Will: Notice anything different about me? 

Kristin: You look the same as always. 

Will: Uh, I’m covered in mites. 

Kristin: Uh, well, you don’t have to tell 

Will: everyone that. Maybe you need a mite, too. What do you think? I 

Kristin: I Prefer to be mite free. You know what these things 

Will: are? They’re [00:40:00] demodex. I 

Kristin: know. They’re enormous. 

Will: Have you ever had red, itchy, irritated eyelids?

Kristin: No, but that does sound very uncomfortable. It 

Will: could be caused by one of these little guys. Now, they’re a lot smaller in real life. 

Kristin: Well, that’s comforting at 

Will: least. But it’s, it’s, they’re called demodex and it’s, uh, yeah, it can cause problems with the eyelids. They’re the mites that live on your eyelashes.

Kristin: Just chomping on all that goo. 

Will: Now, it might seem gross, But you don’t wanna get grossed out by this. 

Kristin: Okay? All 

Will: right. You gotta get checked out. 

Kristin: That is very sens to your eye. Go 

Will: to your eye doctor. Ask about deema d blepharitis. Alright? That’s really what you gotta do. Or db if you wanna be a little shorthand with it.

Kristin: Yeah. Make it sound like you know what you’re talking about. Exactly. 

Will: To find out more, you can go to eyelid Again, that’s E-Y-E-L-I-D to find out more information about these little guys. Tell ’em Dr. Black, check. Cute. That’s right. Deem aex Blepharitis.

Alright, we have a story from John. [00:41:00] John said he just read your AMA. I did it. Your AMA, yep. I did my AMA, uh, on Reddit. That was a fun experience. AMA is Ask Me Anything. Yes, for, I did like four and a half hours of, of typing. That was a lot of typing. Cause, uh, normally I have a scribe that does that. But I did it all myself.

Are you proud of me? Uh, yeah. 

Kristin: I did my own 

Will: work for me. 

Kristin: Wow. Yeah.

Will: So anyway, uh, it was a lot of fun. It was a lot of good questions. And so he says, um, uh, I mentioned that I get stories and ideas from strangers. So he thought he would give me some. 

[singers]: All 

Will: right. All right. So John says, I know a while ago you held a birthday party for family medicine. I did a video about a year ago or so.

And I think this year you should also have him list off Christmas gifts he receives. So John here is a family doc and he said he gets a lot of, uh, a lot of, of Christmas gifts. So he went through and told us some of the more common [00:42:00] categories of things. Yeah. Like 

Kristin: you get Christmas gifts from your patients and things.

Yeah. Yeah. I get some. I don’t 

Will: get nearly, John must be a very good doctor because he gets a lot of stuff here. So this is You 

Kristin: got like, like food products. I get 

Will: some, yeah, some food stuff, some cards, you know, nothing major. I mean, those are great. Like, I don’t expect anything from patients, right? So it’s, it’s, you know, it’s always really nice, fun things.

So here’s, here are the things that John gets. Um, baked goods, candies, jams, home canned goods. Lots of free food. Yeah. See? Absolutely. That you can share with the staff. That’s all good. Uh, kids drawings. Oh, that must be really fun. As a family dog, he sees all ages, right? So, let’s see, kids drawings. That must be a lot of fun.


Kristin: I like his drawings because they’re so weird. 

Will: I know. But 

Kristin: in like the best way. All my patients are in their 80s. How does 

Will: your little brain work? I would, I would love it if my patients would give me drawings. Yeah. Why 

Kristin: not? 

Will: You don’t have to be a kid to be, to draw things. 

Kristin: That’s true. 

Will: [00:43:00] So anyway, maybe you should give me some drawings sometimes.

Kristin: Well, I’m very bad at drawing, but I could be about the same level as a three year old probably. 

Will: Alright. Wine. He says, so much wine. Once, homemade wine. He says it was not good. I also received homemade wine once. Was it good? Stuffed animals and clothes for, um, uh, his two children. Uh, socks. He gets socks.

I’ve got socks. Socks is a common one. Used golf balls. A patient who lives next to a golf course collects balls she finds in the woods all year and brings me a grocery bag full of golf balls. He says, I do golf like twice a year. So it’s like a four year supply each time. I love it. Well, 

Kristin: it’s very thoughtful.

She knows he golfs, so she goes and collects. 

Will: She knows you golf. That takes like actually like forethought and effort. Yeah, I love that. Um, a rifle scope and ammunition. 

[singers]: Not for 

Will: me, but another family doc mentioned he likes hunting, so the [00:44:00] patient asked what type of rifle. The next visit he got a box of rifle ammunition and a nice scope.

Wow. You know, this reminds me of studying for Step 1. There was always this practice question that would come up. It was like, it was like the, a patient who’s a clockmaker brings you like a, a gift. What do you do? What do you do? Like, do you say no, no, thank you. Do you accept it? Do you, you know, whatever.

Yeah. It was like, the point of it was like, if it makes sense for what that person does or it’s not too expensive, then accept it. But if it’s like, a Rolex, you just like, politely decline it. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: Kind of thing. I don’t know how you find that line, but 

Kristin: Also, how do you politely decline a gift, you know? It just feels like 

Will: Right.

Kristin: That’s awkward. 

Will: That’s true. Like, how do you do that? I don’t, I don’t know. I 

Kristin: mean, I know what you would say, but it’s still going to be very awkward. [00:45:00] 

Will: And then, uh, uh, and then John says his favorite was a long sword. He got a long sword as a Christmas gift. 

Kristin: Oh no, a colleague. 

Will: A co oh, sorry. He says a colleague once was talking about, uh, to a patient about hobbies and he mentioned his sword collection.

The patient took that as, I’d love to have a sword. And Next Visit brought him a three and a half foot metal sword. It just, it just sits in the corner of the office because he doesn’t know what to do with it. 

Kristin: That should be the question on the test, is a patient brings you a weapon as a gift. 

Will: Let this be a lesson to all of you.

If, uh, this is, uh, How about a good reason to have small talk with your patients? Like you never know, you may, it may end up getting a sword out of it. I don’t know. Mention your hobbies and see what happens. Mention your hobbies. I don’t know what if I talked up more about my social media presence because I don’t 80 year old 

Kristin: patients?


Will: like what would they, what would they do? I think they’d bring me a microphone. 

Kristin: I don’t know [00:46:00] what they think they’d do. Would go into that. 

Will: I’ve got a Every week I have people that recognize me and 

Kristin: I know but if they’re trying to give you a gift for it 

Will: Yeah, I don’t know how you do that. I don’t know 

Kristin: you have gotten like like costumes and props and I do I have Yeah, 

Will: people email that’s usually by email.

They’re like, okay So, yeah, that’s fun. All right. Anyway, thanks. Thanks John all sorts of things. Also seriously, that’s like That’s a, that’s a huge haul that you must get every year. And that tells you he’s a fantastic doctor. That’s true. I mean, because, yeah, patients gotta love 

Kristin: a gift. Absolutely. And they’re like, I want to do 

Will: something nice for my doctor that I love so much.

Well done. Send us your stories. Knock, knock, hi at human content. com. Uh, let us know what you thought of the episode. If you have other things that Kristen and I could argue about, we’d love to hear that. Um, we’re learning things about each other. Is that our 

Kristin: favorite thing to do with each other? Yeah. I would say 

Will: these are not real arguments more like just trying to come to an understanding [00:47:00] about parts of our personalities Because you know even after however many years we’ve been married.

We still like kind of 

Kristin: don’t understand each other 

Will: No, we understand. I understand you way far too. Well, I 

Kristin: don’t think you do. 

Will: Oh I think you 

Kristin: over your you’re a little overly confident. Hmm 

Will: Well, if we can devise a little game or activity where we can test that theory, I’m all ears. Uh, there’s lots of ways to reach out to us.

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If you subscribe and comment on your favorite podcasting app around YouTube, we can give you a shoutout. Like at Sophia, Sophie Allen. 4129 on YouTube said, Glocks! You should film Will’s eye exam. It would be so interesting. 

Kristin: Don’t think I haven’t thought of that. 

Will: Who’s gonna give me my exam? 

Kristin: I mean, I will if I [00:48:00] have to.


Will: don’t know the first thing about examining an eyeball. 

Kristin: So what? You need somebody to do it. You have so many partners that could do that. What do you mean who’s gonna do it? Just make an appointment like the rest of us . 

Will: See you in three months. All right. So, uh, full video episodes are up every week on my YouTube channel at De Glec.

I always have a Patreon, lots of fun perks, bonus episodes where reactive stuff hang out with other members of the Knock Rock High community. We’re active in it. We’re, uh, also at free episode access, uh, interactive q and a live stream events. Much more. And plug or go to glock and

Patreon Community Perks. Ready? Do it. New member shoutout, MythologyNut. Ooh. Welcome, MythologyNut. We don’t have a MythologyNut in our team. Yeah. How about you? What’s that? 

Kristin: New role. 

Will: New role. MythologyNut. Uh, random shoutout to all the Not random. A directed [00:49:00] shoutout to all the Jonathans. Patrick, Lucia C, Sharon S, Omar Ebert K, Steven G, Jonathan F, Marion W, Mr.

Garand, Daddy Katelyn C, Brianna L, Kay L, Keith G, JJ H, Derek N, Susanna, uh, Mary H, Susanna F, Ginny J, Muhammad K, Ibiga, Parker, Ryan, Muhammad L, David H, Jack K, Medical Meg, Bubbly Salt, and Pink Macho! Woo, I usually do much better than that. Patreon roulette! Shout out to someone on the emergency medicine tier, Raymond S.

Thank you, Raymond S, for being a patron. And thank you all for listening. We’re your hosts, Will and Kristen Flannery. Uh, I don’t know, I was thinking I had to add something else there. Wait, that is us, right? The 

Kristin: Glockenflagons, maybe? The Glockenflagons, that’s it. 

Will: I feel like I normally say something else there, but anyway, our executive producers are Will Flannery, Kristen Flannery, Aaron Korney, Aaron Korney, Aaron Korman.

Kristin: It is okay to just speak normally, that would be fine. 

Will: Okay, Will Flannery. Chris [00:50:00] McClanner, Aaron Korney, Rob Goldman and 

Kristin: Shahnti 

Will: Brooke. Our Editor in Engineer is Jason Partiz for our Music is by Omer Ben Zvi. To learn about our programming here at NPR, you can go to By the way, we had a wonderful email, uh, sent by Kashae.

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[singers]: Knock, knock, goodbye!

Will: Hey, Kristen? 

Kristin: Yeah? 

Will: What do you think about my Dax co pilot? He’s 

Kristin: very cute. Almost as cute as mine. 

Will: Oh, he’s great. He just sits right there. 

Kristin: I know. 

Will: Can I tell you about Dax? 

Kristin: Yeah, tell me. Oh 

Will: man, it’s fantastic. The Dragon Ambient Experience from Nuance. They call it Dax co pilot. It’s cute. Yeah, he helps with documentation burden, reducing burnout.

In fact, 80 percent of patients. Say their physician is more focused using the DAX copilot. That’s, that’s huge. That’s pretty good. We all want to be able to connect more with our patients. 

Kristin: Right. 

Will: And all the documentation we have to do now, it makes it almost impossible. 

Kristin: Yeah. Easy to burn out. Absolutely.

That’s your job. And 

Will: 85 percent of patients say their physician is more personable and conversational. 

Kristin: I like that. 

Will: I want to, I need help being conversational sometimes and DAX is one of those things that can help you get there. So, uh, to learn more about the Nuance Dragon Ambient Experience or DAX Copilot, visit nuance.

com slash discover [00:52:00] DAX. That’s N U A N C E dot com slash discover D A X.