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Good day to you all. Welcome to knock, knock. Hi. With the glockenspiel, I am Dr. Glockenspiel, also known as Will Flannery. 

Kristin: I’m Lady Glockenspiel, also known as Kristen Flannery. 

Will: Decided to wear my face today. 

Kristin: That’s just really arrogant. For those of you who are 

Will: watching on our YouTube channel. Oh, why? It’s just, it’s, it’s, it’s Jonathan.

A person 

Kristin: wearing their own face on their shirt? 

Will: Our daughter said that, because this has been hung up, like the first. [00:01:00] Shirt? It’s like the first shirt in my closet. Yeah. She said it scares her every time she walks by it. This is my face just staring at her. 

Kristin: Oh my gosh. Did you see the, uh, I sent it to you as a text, but as a group text.

You probably ignored it. But. There was a baby, somebody sent us a video of their baby, probably like about one, I’d say, maybe a little bit older, and they had trained their baby to do the Jonathan nod. 

Will: You’re kidding me. 

Kristin: He says, what does Jonathan do? And then the baby’s like. 

Will: Can you, okay, I need, I need to see this video.

All right. Well, I already 

Kristin: sent it to you. Oh, 

Will: okay. Is there a text? 

Kristin: Yes. 

Will: Well, you know, I am. 

Kristin: I know. 

Will: Are you, uh, okay. How many texts are unread on your phone right now? 

Kristin: Uh, two, because I’m saving them. Cause I need to do something. 

Will: That’s it. There are two types of [00:02:00] people in the world. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: Right. 

Kristin: But don’t ask me about how many emails I have unread.

Will: See, but that that’s surprising to me because I feel like it should carry over from text to email. 

Kristin: It used to, I just got really burned out on email specifically. So what is it 

Will: about texts? You don’t get burned out on texts? Those are all people 

Kristin: I know for the most part. And it’s usually not someone asking me to do something.

Email is a hundred percent of the time. Someone asking you to do something. 

Will: All 

Kristin: right. 

Will: Guess how many unread texts I have right now. 

Kristin: 192, 

Will: 416. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: Would that just like set off your anxiety? Like, how would you feel if that was? So 

Kristin: I don’t care, but like, 

Will: yeah, but if it was like, 

Kristin: at that point I would just burn it down and start over, like there’s no catching up.

Will: Oh, it is. I just go through and just click on each conversation, but you don’t actually have to read it all. 

Kristin: That’s fine. Just delete them all. You’re never going to read them anyway. But 

Will: do you have, cause you have [00:03:00] anxiety. Do you have like, is it like a compulsion to read every text that comes by? Like, cause surely you’re like doing things when people text you.

Kristin: Mhm. Well, 

Will: how do you remember to go back and read them all because that’s my 

Kristin: notification, 

Will: like I’m working, I’m operating or something and like, I just, you know, I never have time, I just forget to see it and then I just end up with 416 messages that are unread. Well, sorry to all the people, all my friends and family texting me, 

Kristin: especially your wife.

Will: Well, I mean, then, then this is what happens. We have a conversation. You tell me a thing that you texted me and then see now 

Kristin: that triggers me because then it’s like you rely on me to do your work for you, and I already have enough work of my own. 

Will: That’s true. Let’s not start off on a, on a bad note here, where were, we’re doing, the 

Kristin: whole point was it was a cute baby doing the job and nod.

I 

Will: can’t wait. I love it. I, I send me all the babies doing all the, the characters and I want a, I want a baby version. [00:04:00] A general hospital where all the babies are dressed as a, like a, a neurologist, baby, there’s an ortho baby. Um, if I had access to a lot of babies, this is what I would do with them. I 

Kristin: know you would.

I would dress them up 

Will: and it would be awesome. And you all would love it. 

Kristin: Be very cute. How can you go wrong with babies? The only thing you could do that might even top it, maybe not, would be puppies. 

Will: Yeah, I think babies would be, would be, personally, babies 

Kristin: would, would be cuter to me, but a lot of people who like puppies.

Will: How about cats? 

Kristin: Maybe kittens. Yeah. 

Will: Okay. I’m so, if you guys haven’t guessed yet, this is a Glock Talk episode. We don’t, we don’t have anything like real serious to talk about, but I do have a handful of topics. That, uh, I find interesting because we haven’t gotten to like sit and talk, uh, where we like lock our kids outside of the office.

Yeah, that’s 

Kristin: why we do this podcast is because it’s our excuse to hang out with each other where the kids cannot interrupt. 

Will: Well, [00:05:00] you, you gave me that. You just said that before we sat down. Yep. Because we’re recording this. This is the first. Episode we’ve recorded together, I think, without our producers present.

Kristin: Probably. Yeah. 

Will: Yeah. Like we’re doing all this, we’re 

Kristin: doing it in the evening. Yes. 

Will: We’re doing it on our own. 

Kristin: We 

Will: have, we were recording everything appropriately. I think, um, but we’re also like, I’m just, it’s the end of the day. I’m kind of tired. I operated today. You worked all day. 

[music]: Uh, 

Will: and so I was like, Oh God.

Okay. We got to like, we’ve got to do this episode and then you were like. What are you talking about? Like this is, we never get to like, just have an excuse to like, kick the kids out of a room and just like chat with each other and you’re right. And so this is great. How are you doing? 

Kristin: I’m good. How are you?

Will: Uh, I am, I’m trying to bond with our cats. 

Kristin: Yeah, I’m 

Will: struggling. Okay, so we 

Kristin: talked about that. No, 

Will: not on the podcast. Okay. Um, so, so we got, we don’t have to go through like the, the zoo that our house is, but [00:06:00] the point is we now have two kittens. 

[music]: Yes. 

Will: One for each of our kids. And that wasn’t initially the plan.

We rescued them. Um, and they are, Seem like good kittens. I, this is my first experience with cat dumb. Cat, 

Kristin: uh, 

Will: cat. 

Kristin: I was about to say ownership, but I feel like there’s a contingency of people that would not prefer that term. 

Will: We own these cats. What are you talking about? 

Kristin: We bought them. 

Will: They are our cats.

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: We are responsible. Yes. Financially. 

Kristin: We’re their guardians. 

Will: And emotionally for cats. That feels 

Kristin: better. We are their guardians. The 

Will: guardians of our cats. Uh, what are their names? Uh, it’s. 

Kristin: Athena and Calliope. Calliope. 

Will: Okay. Very, uh, we call them Cal. Yeah, Cal, uh, 

Kristin: children named them. 

Will: Okay. Yes. I mean, I would never come up with something as creative as calliope, which is apparently a Greek.

Kristin: They’re both Greek goddesses. Yes. Calliope, according to our daughter is the goddess of [00:07:00] music and poetry. 

Will: Totally looks like a calliope. 

Kristin: So what I find funny is that the cats that belong to each girl match, not only the appearance. Of the girl in terms of like coloring and things 

Will: like the hair and everything, 

Kristin: right?

But also personality. 

Will: I can see that. It’s so funny. So, so. I’m struggling with this. This is the first time in my life. I have owned cats, but I’ve had cats be part of our family, of my family. I didn’t grow up with cats. I grew up with a couple of different dogs. Um, how do you make, be friends with cats? I just, I don’t, I don’t get it.

I don’t get cats. I go into the room. Cause right now we’re, we’re like very slow because we have a big dog. So we’re like slowly introducing them to the house. So we’re, they’ve been mostly right now in like our laundry room. I go in there and they clearly like, don’t really give a shit about me. 

Kristin: Well, that is a [00:08:00] characteristic feature of cats.

Sure. 

Will: I’m not used to that. 

Kristin: You’re used to people adoring you. No, no, no, no, not 

Will: people. Okay. All right. You walked right into it. I had to take it. Uh, but, but no, our dog, you know, it says he’s so happy. He’s like snorting. Dogs are 

Kristin: very enthusiastic. And 

Will: it’s kind of like, this is dumb a little bit. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: Cats, they, they like got a, they’re thinking and that bothers me.

I don’t like it. 

Kristin: There’s a little bit creepy. 

Will: Yeah. And, and it’s like, like they, it doesn’t, it seems like they could not care less whether I’m in the room or not. 

Kristin: That’s funny because when I go in the room, do you know what they do? 

Will: What? 

Kristin: They immediately run to me and get in my lap. 

Will: Well, it’s probably because you sit down and I stand there and I say, how do you do?

Kristin: Yeah, that could be where you’re going wrong. 

Will: Is that, I don’t know how to interact with them. I don’t know. 

Kristin: to shake their paws? 

Will: I will be, I will say that I did not do that. They would not have let me. Um, I, I did play with the, uh, the laser pointer. They love that thing. [00:09:00] That’s really, that’s really fun. Laser pointer with the cat.

Kristin: Nothing better. 

Will: That’s really fun. 

Kristin: That is one of the top 10 experiences on planet earth. 

Will: Also like the second time I went in to interact with these cats. Um, they, one of them was taking a dump and I was, I was shocked. Because I am, I have only seen my pet dogs take dumps out in the, out in the yard. 

Kristin: Yeah.

Will: Um, cats are very clean. They like instinctively know this is where I need to poop 

Kristin: in 

Will: the litter box. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: And it smells bad. It 

Kristin: is surprising such a small cat. There’s still tiny 

Will: little cat. It’s awful. 

Kristin: It smells so bad. It’s a huge smell coming out of a tiny little body. 

Will: And so I now like recognize that like litter box is like a, a specific scent that’s not pleasant other than that.

I’m fine with the cats. 

Kristin: Yeah, 

Will: they’re they’re they’re fun to watch. 

Kristin: They are fun. 

Will: Uh, we’ll see [00:10:00] i’m not i’m not I’m not gonna call myself a cat person though. I’m not gonna go that far 

Kristin: You can be a dog person and a cat. I don’t know if 

Will: you can you 

Kristin: can you sure? You can do whatever you want. 

Will: I don’t know if I feel comfortable like that.

Kristin: Why do you feel like you’re betraying the dog a little 

Will: bit, 

Kristin: but the dogs also want you to have the cat 

Will: because they want to go after 

Kristin: it. 

Will: Would absolutely eat the cat hole. 

Kristin: Yes. I think that’s what his instinct is to do. 

Will: And so I, I don’t know, maybe, maybe our listeners can help us figure out how to introduce.

Kristin: Yeah, 

Will: the two, because they’re very Tom and Jerry, 

Kristin: they are 

Will: in a cat dog way. Um, I don’t know. I don’t know. 

Kristin: We just have to train the dog. Like he’ll, he’ll learn 

Will: the dog. So the cats, I think need to be a little bit bigger and then they can gang up on the dog and show the dog who’s boss. 

Kristin: They’re not afraid to do that.

I would love scratch you. 

Will: I think he needs it. 

Kristin: I think so too. 

Will: He’s a [00:11:00] little bit, he’s been, you know, king of the house for a while and 

Kristin: he 

Will: needs to be knocked down a notch safely, but still, I, I, I would, I would welcome. 

Kristin: We’re not going to set them up for a fight. We’re just going to let nature take its course.

It sounds like we’re running an animal ring here. 

Will: We’ll do it responsibly. How’s that? Um, yeah, 

Kristin: there’s a method is what I’m saying. There’s a, there’s a method to the madness. 

Will: Figure it out. Well, I I’m, I’m taking cues from all of you guys who have owned cats. You’ve had how many cats in your life? 

Kristin: I don’t even know.

Would you, 

Will: would you say you’ve had more cats than dogs? 

Kristin: No, I would, I, that’d be a tough call. I have always lived in, in a zoo essentially. It’s because of my mother 

Will: and now 

Kristin: my mother is living with us again. And so here we are back in a zoo. 

Will: Yeah, we came home and there was, uh, we didn’t even talk about the third cat.

Kristin: Yeah, there’s another cat. 

Will: That had, that found its way into our house. Uh, I, I don’t even. 

Kristin: Oh, no, that’s a fourth cat. 

Will: Oh yeah. Oh, the third one [00:12:00] is, is a stray that comes by and just eats food. Well, I was considering the 

Kristin: third one, the other cat that is ours. I 

Will: don’t even, there’s, listen, it’s just too many cats.

We are, we are outnumbered. Do you know how this 

Kristin: started? It started as I wanted a single. Barn cat. Yeah, we have a barn. To hunt mice. That’s all I wanted. Yeah. Our kids have been asking for a cat for forever. And I was like, sure, as long as it’s in the barn and it’s catching mice and it’s earning its keep and it doesn’t come in the house and shed everywhere.

I’m fine with that. And that turned into three cats somehow. That’s, that’s my mother. I’m telling you, that is the, that is the effect that she has. 

Will: And then this third cat, which is an older cat, um, yeah, it’s older than the kittens. It’s like, Oh, 

Kristin: not by much. It’s also still just kind of a teenager. Yeah. Yeah.

Will: Um, our youngest daughter named the cat, Mr. 

Kristin: Yeah. I love that. 

Will: Just Mr. So we’re just like, we go outside, Mr. But then cats don’t come when you call them, they don’t care. So see, I don’t [00:13:00] get, I don’t understand it. I don’t understand it. All right, we can be 

Kristin: sick of the cat. 

Will: Um, all right. I’ve, uh, uh, so this evening, before we started recording, I took our daughter to, um, uh, basketball.

Um, practice, she is a, uh, in the fourth grade kind of rec league. And they’re still at the age where I love the names they choose for their teams. Absolutely love it. So this is the same, uh, child that their, their soccer team that she was with before she took a 

Kristin: break. Kindergarten, they picked kindergarten to 

Will: third grade, uh, jelly bean tigers.

Lovely name. Love it. The jelly bean tigers. Uh, do you know what their name, their basketball team name is? 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: Dunkin Donuts. Dunkin 

Kristin: Donuts. 

Will: Dunkin Donuts. I really think that our kid had a strong hand, like part to play in choosing that name, but you probably don’t know what, I heard what all their, cause I was watching practice tonight.

I heard all the names of [00:14:00] their plays. 

Kristin: Oh, they’re all food related. They 

Will: are 

Kristin: all at the game this weekend You were out of town, so you didn’t get to see it dog two hot dog both teams both teams not Not interacting with each other at all before this All their plays on both teams are food, pizza, donut, you know, 

Will: we got, we got a hot dog, 

Kristin: hot dog, 

Will: we got waffle.

Kristin: Oh yeah. Waffle. I liked that one. Yeah. 

Will: Waffles. That one 

Kristin: made me hungry. 

Will: Yeah. Waffle. We got spaghetti. 

Kristin: Oh 

Will: yeah. So I can’t wait to see her, what they pull out next week. I love it. I love it. So that’s not going to last very, very much longer because they get older and they’re 

Kristin: going to be like various animals, 

Will: Falcons, you know, the tigers, whatever, boring, I go back to, Oh, let’s have some adult teams that name themselves, jelly bean tigers.

Yeah. Why not? Come on, have some fun with it. 

[music]: Yeah. 

Will: Um, all right. I, I, [00:15:00] we have to, we can’t let this recording today go long. You know why? 

Kristin: Why? ‘

Will: cause there’s a new episode of Severance. 

Kristin: Oh. 

Will: So let’s take a break. I wanna come back and tell you about the show. 

Kristin: Okay.

Will: Hey Kristen. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: I’ve got some friends I’d like you to meet. 

Kristin: I see that , I, you seem a little too friendly with them, I have to say. 

Will: Aren’t they cute? I 

Kristin: sure 

Will: with the little beaty eyes. Uhhuh and their little, the little hands are the hands, the claws. 

Kristin: I don’t know. 

Will: Appendages. Okay. How about that? Yeah, it 

Kristin: works.

Will: But anyway, they just like, well, they’d like to say hi. Okay. Like 

Kristin: to say hi. Wonderful. 

Will: They’re not, they, Oh, look, the one sticking around. 

Kristin: Sure is right on my mic. 

Will: These little guys are a demodex and they live on your eyelashes and they can cause flaky, red, irritated eyelids. 

Kristin: See, that’s not cool. That’s a party foul.

You just kind of want to, 

Will: like, rub them. Mm 

Kristin: hmm. You’re not [00:16:00] welcome here if you’re going to do that. 

Will: And it’s caused sometimes by these little guys. 

Kristin: Yep. That’s rude. 

Will: Uh, Demodex blepharitis. But you shouldn’t get grossed out by this. 

Kristin: Okay. 

Will: All right. You got to get checked out. 

Kristin: Yes. Get checked out. 

Will: To find out more, go to eyelidcheck.

com. Again, that’s E U I E L I D. Check. com for more information about these little guys and Demodex Blepharitis.

Okay, severance. 

Kristin: Okay, now it’s important to set the context here. I Though I am aware of it, I have not watched severance because as we have established many times, I just don’t have much time to watch TV doing other things, 

Will: right? So I 

Kristin: miss a lot of it, but you watch a lot of it. 

Will: I watch, I watch a decent amount of TV before bed.

Probably what I should not do. I should probably be reading a book or something, but whatever. I don’t, I’d like to turn my brain off and just kind of, except this show, I can’t really turn my brain off [00:17:00] because it’s very stimulating. I 

Kristin: want to watch it. It sounds great. 

Will: Well, and Kristen’s also the type of person that she loves to come in kind of mid season, mid movie.

Kristin: Then I say, what’s going on? Do they love each other? 

Will: Who’s that? 

Kristin: I think they love each other. 

Will: You’re the, you’re the people make fun of you. Uh, not you specifically, but your type of person. I don’t do it 

Kristin: at like the theater or something. 

Will: Well, I’d hope not because you’re sitting there watching from the beginning.

Right. So, anyway. 

Kristin: So, I’m not that bad. 

Will: Okay, Severance. 

Kristin: Okay. 

Will: This is like my new obsession. 

Kristin: Hmm. 

Will: The show is wild. Okay. So, it’s season two and the first season aired like three years. It took them three years. To get to season two because of like strikes and stuff, whatever. Uh, but finally came out with season two.

All right. Can I tell you the do you know the premise? 

Kristin: Yeah, I think so. They are one person on the outside and then they have agreed to sever some connection in their brain To [00:18:00] where they don’t remember their outside life as soon as they step into work and then they’re a different person. They’re outies 

Will: Yeah, 

Kristin: that’s funny.

They 

Will: call them outies and indies. Um, yes, it is. Do you remember the show lost? This is like, this makes me feel like I felt watching lost, like lots of mystery 

Kristin: at the beginning when it was really good. 

Will: Yeah. Whenever it was like, oh my God, why is there, why is there like a portal down to the center of the earth?

Why are there a polar bears? Why is there a smoke monster? All these things with lost. Well, it’s like kind of the same thing and like, there’s all kinds of crap. I’m not going to say anything cause I don’t want to ruin anything for anybody, but, um, it’s, uh, oh man, it’s like, and it, it’s, it’s so good. And, uh, I’m like, Keeping myself from going online and looking at like all the theories because people are way too smart and they like figure it out.

They figure things out. That’s what 

Kristin: I do when I watch it. I figure it out and then I ruin it for you. And then you’re mad. Cause I just came in four minutes ago and you’ve been invested in this thing. 

Will: This is [00:19:00] also the queen of, of reading the ending of a book before you started. Can you imagine folks reading 

Kristin: people out there?

Can I’m sure I’m not the only one. 

Will: What’s the psychology behind that 

Kristin: anxiety? 

Will: Really? That’s all it is. 

Kristin: Yeah. I need to know where we’re going so that I can not be emotionally devastated along the way and stressed out. The suspense is too much, 

Will: but doesn’t it, okay. So it’s, you know, cause you already have enough anxiety.

I live on that 

Kristin: already. 

Will: Why do you need to watch a suspenseful or read a suspenseful book? It doesn’t have to be a 

Kristin: happy ending, whatever. I just want to know what it is. I just want to know where we’re headed. See, 

Will: I can’t relate to that because I would immediately lose the motivation to, to read the book if you knew how it ended.

Kristin: You don’t like reading to, 

Will: well, yeah, sure. But like, if you already know, like the. The climax, like [00:20:00] how it, how many pages are you reading? I don’t, yeah, I don’t 

Kristin: know all the details. I just kind of skim to see like, okay, 

Will: dying. Yeah. And is this 

Kristin: character still here? You know, stuff like that. I don’t read like the last chapter or something.

I’m just skimming, just kind of getting a sense, except for when I Wikipedia it ahead of time, but that’s more with movies. 

Will: So like a book about our life story. An imaginary book that was about everything that’s happened with us. Would you skip ahead, you’d read the beginning, you’d, you’d go to the end, make sure that, uh, she actually does save him from a, from a cardiac arrest, but what if you didn’t save me, 

Kristin: you read that, you just need to know, 

Will: that’s all it is, it’s not like, oh, I’m not going to read this because the dude dies in the end, 

Kristin: no, it’s just, I want to know where, what I’m in for, I 

Will: still don’t, I still [00:21:00] don’t quite get it, it’s like, it’s the journey, it’s like, 

Kristin: you don’t get this the way I don’t get why people like horror.

Will: My people want to know how it ends before it starts. I don’t know. You got me on that one. 

Kristin: Those feel like opposite sides of the same coin, though. We are opposites 

Will: in a lot of ways. Like, I don’t want 

Kristin: to be scared. I’m already scared. 

Will: How did we find each other? 

Kristin: I don’t know. AOL Instant Messenger. 

Will: We do, we do complement each other quite well, though.

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: And man, I say it every time you mentioned AOL and some messenger. I wish we still had those conversations. 

Kristin: I don’t know. 

Will: What are you going to do? Um, 

Kristin: they’re probably not as good as we remember. 

Will: Oh, they’re probably, oh yeah. A lot of cringe going on. And, um, just like to 

Kristin: show them to our teenager though.

Speaking of what she would 

Will: do. Um, all right. I’ve got another update from this week for you. Um, I’m not quite sure how to tell you this. 

Kristin: Okay. Love these. 

Will: Earlier this [00:22:00] week, I received a marriage proposal. You’re not surprised. 

Kristin: Well, do 

Will: you want me to tell you who 

Kristin: it 

Will: was? You’re like nodding along, like this is normal.

Yes. Yes. Well, it’s some deranged fan. I don’t know. It’s 

Kristin: normal. No. 

Will: So. You know, when I’m doing cataract surgery, cystic cataract surgery, so we, uh, we give people, we don’t put people to sleep. We just, uh, put them like under light sedation. So it’s like two glasses of wine. Okay. Have you ever had a procedure like that where they gave you just a little bit and then maybe dental stuff?

Kristin: Maybe. 

Will: Yeah. Because you weren’t put to sleep for like any kind of. Dental procedures. 

Kristin: I’ve had oral surgery and I was put to sleep for that. 

Will: Okay. Well, anyway, so the people are not, you know, they’re not supposed to fall asleep, but after two glasses of wine, some people fall asleep. 

Kristin: I have a question though.

You’re [00:23:00] doing cataract surgery. So you’re taking out their lens. 

Will: Uh, yes. 

Kristin: So can they see anything? Like, they still have light sensitivity though, so they can just see like shadows. I know, I’m just curious. 

Will: Oh, they see lights and colors. It’s like a psychedelic light show. I have people that are taken back to the time when they were doing LSD.

On 

Kristin: LSD, yeah. 

Will: Yeah, like I, like, they’re like, it’s like jogging memories for people. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: So it’s like, like a form of. 

Kristin: And they’ve had two glasses of wine essentially. So they tell you all about it. 

Will: Oh, that’s the thing. So I, people will, will, the people that don’t try to fall asleep on you, they will sometimes be very quiet.

Some people are so nervous. They just don’t want to talk. Some people get very talkative. They’re telling. Probably also because they’re 

[music]: nervous. 

Will: Some of them maybe. Telling jokes. Mm-hmm . Sometimes very inappropriate jokes. Sure. And everybody in the operator, we just kind of, you know, we all know what the, the thing is, you can’t, it’s hard to hold things against people.

You can’t really hold things against people unless 

Kristin: [00:24:00] they’re drugged, 

Will: unless they’re outta control, like, uh, abusive. But I’ve never seen that happen. Yeah. Most people get kind of happy. 

Kristin: Right. 

Will: Um, and, uh, and so we, what was I talking about? 

Kristin: The marriage proposal, 

Will: that’s right. The marriage proposal. So anyway, I had a patient, uh, today, not today.

It was, it was a couple of days ago, but, um, was had, had her two glasses of wine and it was very talkative talking to me as soon as I finished taking out the cataract. 

[music]: So no lens, 

Will: no lens in the eye, but it doesn’t really matter what stage it is, but yeah, no lens in the eye. She just 

Kristin: wanted to know how, how clearly she could see you when she proposed.

Will: No, you can’t know. She couldn’t see me at all. She could just, she was, she was getting a psychedelic light show. That’s what it is. And I guess all of that together, uh, prompted her to say, will you marry me? 

Kristin: Just out of the blue? 

Will: It was like, At the end, she was telling some story and then she’s like, I’m just so happy.

Will you marry me? [00:25:00] 

Kristin: Oh my goodness. Poor lady. Um, 

Will: what do you think about that? 

Kristin: Well, 

Will: jealous, 

Kristin: I am, no, I’m not threatened anyway for multiple reasons. Can I 

Will: also tell you that I’ve, um, I’ve received multiple, uh, requests, inquiries about my relationship status. 

Kristin: Okay. All right. Good for you. 

Will: I’m just saying if, if ever, uh, we were to not be married anymore.

I would have a slew of women in their seventies and eighties who would, who would be willing to talk. 

Kristin: I bet real popular with the grandma. 

Will: So I just, I’m just saying. So anyway, um, 

Kristin: that was the first marriage proposal, but I do get like a similar situation, um, [00:26:00] when 

Will: you’re doing surgery, 

Kristin: men at the grocery store.

Will: Oh, no, really 

Kristin: old men and always at the grocery store, they don’t say anything. What they do is they 

Will: lurk, 

Kristin: they stare. Yeah. You just get ladies. No, you get a vibe. How 

Will: is it? Is it like easy? Like, do you like, is it like a, like a Spidey sense type of thing? 

Kristin: Because it feels threatening. So you’re I’m sure, 

Will: does he probably, does he think that he doesn’t, that you don’t notice him looking at you?

Kristin: Probably. 

Will: Do you think that’s a common thing with men? Do you think that 

Kristin: that’s a good question? Do they think we don’t notice or do they just think that they’re entitled to it? Or do they think that we should be flattered by it? I don’t know. 

Will: No, I mean, I don’t think you should be flattered by it. 

Kristin: No, I’m saying, do the men think that so they’re just not a shame.

Oh, like it’s flattering 

Will: to you for me to, to leer at you. 

Kristin: Right. 

Will: Well, next time, tell [00:27:00] me where the old men are like, is it produce? 

Kristin: No, here’s the thing. It’s never when you don’t like for me to get off on like. My tangents are my soap boxes, but you, then you set me up. It’s never when you’re with me, 

Will: it’s a podcast.

Everyone it’s never, 

Kristin: when you’re with me, it’s never, when any man is with me, 

Will: cause I’m a big imposing guy 

Kristin: cause you’re a man. And there’s this sense of, Oh, she’s his. So I’m not gonna. They’ll respect the man, but not when I’m alone, 

Will: I’ll be talking about Like senior citizen. 

Kristin: No, not quite like late 50s 60s 

Will: Okay, 

Kristin: it just it’s a little disappointing because they used to be younger

So really now I just feel like I’ve gotten old 

Will: do they ever say anything 

Kristin: Um, occasionally they try to like come [00:28:00] up and be friendly and like make a joke like a, like a really cheesy usually. And I’m just like, Hey, and then we’ll go try to leave. You 

Will: say, I am Lady Glockenspiel. I do not. How dare you? 

Kristin: No.

Will: This is a soapbox that I’ll be getting into later today when I podcast. What’s a podcast? Okay. Well, I’m sorry you have to deal with that. 

Kristin: Yeah, I mean, it’s, it’s not fine every time, but it’s not necessarily every time. Often it’s, it’s happened on numerous occasions. 

Will: Have you ever, have you ever felt like scared for your life?

Kristin: Yeah, not at the grocery store. 

Will: No, 

Kristin: that’s more in like, for example, one time I was walking from a parking lot into my workplace, [00:29:00] which was about a block or two away and. I was, it’s, it’s seven in the morning, mind you, like it’s not those 

Will: grad school days, 

Kristin: no, maybe it’s more like eight in the morning point is it’s first thing in the morning, everybody’s getting to work, it’s not like it’s the middle of the night or something.

So I’m walking along and then there’s a part where there’s. Um, an alley, but it’s not like a creepy alley. It’s just like, this is a connection between these two streets. And, um, walked it all the time does fastest way there. And one day there was a truck coming down cause it was wide enough to drive through, um, and a truck was coming down and there was a man in it.

I think it was just one man. And he, you know, Truck is tall, so I’m very short, and so he’s above me, literally, and then he, um, like, cat called, and I, so when I’m So [00:30:00] In those situations, what I do is I try to look really angry, just grouchy. And then I’ve always got like my key between my fingers or something like that.

So I was putting on like a grouchy face to try to discourage anything. And he just goes, smile, beautiful from his window as I’m walking to work. Like it just felt gross and scary. 

Will: And where he was in relation to Yeah. I mean, he’s already, 

Kristin: he’s already. Most men are taller and stronger than me. So that’s already 

Will: threatening twisting.

Kristin: Oh yeah. They don’t know what they’re trying to, they don’t know what they’d be in for. I’m very scrappy. You 

Will: use torque to your 

Kristin: advantage. So dirty, nothing is off limits 

Will: and a few times I’ve tried to wrestle you. I can sense that 

Kristin: it’s all I’ve got. 

Will: I gotta, I gotta tap out. Sometimes I’m afraid of how far you’ll take it.[00:31:00] 

Kristin: Uh, yeah, but listen, this happens to most females. This is not unique. 

Will: Well, on that note, let’s take a break.

While we were on break, you showed me the video of the little baby being Jonathan and just like a legit, just.

Kristin: It’s 

Will: like a, it was like a two year, like not even two year old, 

Kristin: I think it’s like one year, like 15 

Will: months, something like that and young enough where the kid it’s still at the age where the head’s just really heavy. And so it was like a, like, he was like slingshotting his head forward to, to, to use momentum from this giant, you know, heavy noggin.

Kristin: I mean, I give it a 10. I mean, it was a good impression. 

Will: Fantastic head nod. Yeah. Yeah. So I’m, I’m very impressed. Yeah. That’s awesome. All right. So what hero does I have for you? [00:32:00] Some rapid fire questions. Okay. So I thought we could do this, um, maybe we’ll, we can learn a thing or two about each other by doing stuff like this.

Kristin: Is that possible anymore? 

Will: I don’t know. I mean, we’ve been married for 15 years now. Um, 

[music]: yes. 15. 

Will: And change. Okay, ready? 

[music]: Mm hmm. 

Will: Rapid fire questions. Get to know your wife edition. You have a long flight and have to choose between window, aisle, or middle seat. Which would you choose? 

Kristin: It’s a long flight, long 

Will: flight, 

Kristin: daytime or nighttime.

Will: I can tell this is going to go really well. 

Kristin: Am I with my kids or not? You’re 

Will: by yourself. You’re on a long flight, day into night, 

Kristin: day into night, 

Will: day into night. Okay. Not a red eye. 

Kristin: Window. Because I might get sleepy and then I can rest my head. I 

Will: knew you were going to choose window. 

Kristin: Otherwise, if it’s just, if there’s no need to [00:33:00] sleep during it, then aisle.

Will: You can only watch three movies for the rest of your life. What are those movies? 

Kristin: Oof, I can’t even think of any movies.

All right, let’s do one 

Will: then. One movie. 

Kristin: A movie. Okay, this is like old. It’s going to date me again, but. 

Will: Stepmom? 

Kristin: Yes. I knew it. Uh huh. It’s just a classic from a formative time in my life, right? Like early teenagehood when that came out. And so it’s just a nice comfort movie. Same with my best friend’s wedding, same era.

Just one of those that you watched a whole bunch of times and you could memorize, you memorize the lines and stuff just from how many times you’d seen it. 

Will: Yeah, 

Kristin: if I have to watch something a bazillion times, I would want it to be something that is like a comfort movie. 

Will: What happened in Stepmom? Someone became a stepmom?

Kristin: Um, yes, Julia Roberts became a [00:34:00] stepmom to the children of Ed Harris and Susan Sarandon. 

Will: Oh my, some star power here. 

Kristin: Yeah, it was good. It was a big movie when it came out. Yeah. 

Will: Okay. 

Kristin: Um, oh, and then I guess for a third, I would add Contact. 

[music]: Ooh. 

Kristin: Cause that was also A little bit earlier than those, but also in that really formative time.

And it was like such a different movie than anything I’d seen before. That one was cool. 

Will: What am I able to be? Interstellar. 

Kristin: Yeah. That’s I love that’s this generation. Same deal as contact. That’s the movie. Both written by Carl Sagan. What? Pretty sure. Carl Sagan wrote 

Will: there’s a, no, maybe he didn’t write Interstellar.

He didn’t, but he did write Contact. Yeah, he did. Right. Yeah. He did write Contact. Sorry. Okay. All right. Good. Good choices. I guess. Stepmom. Sure. Go for it. Um, okay. Do you put your [00:35:00] bills on auto pay? 

Kristin: Oh yeah. 

Will: Yeah. You’re totally, you’re absolutely an auto pay person. 

Kristin: 100%. I don’t want to think about that. 

Will: Milk before cereal or cereal before milk?

Kristin: Cereal before milk. 

Will: Right. Who would, who would do it the other way? 

Kristin: I don’t know. You 

Will: splash everywhere. 

Kristin: Maniacs. 

Will: I didn’t even know how much, 

Kristin: how much milk you’re gonna gonna need. It’s like, it’s like, 

Will: it’s like you’re, it’s such a weird way of thinking. ’cause it’s like, it’s like you’re thinking in your head, how much milk do I want?

Yeah. And then you, because normally it’s like, how much cereal do I, how much milk do I want? And then, then you fill cereal, then cereal accordingly. I’ll get it. It’s stupid. . I don’t like it. I don’t like thinking about it. . I don’t, 

Kristin: this is making you bother me. Cringe. 

Will: Yeah. Thank these producers are great for these questions by the way,

Um, okay. When you see a store having a sale, do you see it as an opportunity to save money or an opportunity to spend money?

Kristin: Generally save. [00:36:00] Yeah. Like I would look for something that’s like the, the. The stuff they’re trying to get rid of because it’s end of season, you know, and then I would just like store it until next year and then I would have it. Then it’s like a surprise twice because you buy it, so you get the dopamine rush of buying it in the first place.

And then, it just sits there for a year, you forget all about it, and then it comes back out. A year later. And you’re like, I’ve got a new sweater. Get that dopamine rush again. 

Will: Can’t relate. I haven’t bought clothes for myself in ages. 

Kristin: Do you still have clothes from college? Or have we finally gotten through all of them?

Will: I have a few things. Well, most of them is like ultimate, like. 

Kristin: Okay. Oh, that’s fine. It’s like ultimate 

Will: Frisbee teams. I’ve been talking 

Kristin: like clothes you would wear on a daily basis. Oh, 

Will: no. Uh, I do know. I do have, I do have two dress shirts that I still have from when I interviewed for med schools. Is that so that was, yeah, I was in college.

No, [00:37:00] they were not, they’re like nice, but I still have them from med school, those interviews, and I actually just wore one for a chemo, like, like two weeks ago, it’s still hanging in there because I don’t wear it that often. 

Kristin: Right. It’s like a special occasion one. 

Will: I remember it being very big. When I bought it, I was too, I probably looked like an idiot going to interviews, wearing this thing, 

[music]: but it 

Will: was just a little bit too big of a shirt.

Now it’s almost too small.

All right. Let’s see what else, uh, what’s in your travel bag. No, everything’s in your travel bag. I 

Kristin: have. Name it, which one I’ve got compartmentalized. Oh, 

Will: maybe we should talk about how you, maybe that’s a good question. How do you organize your travel bag? 

Kristin: All right. 

Will: Oh no. Jesus. What’s about to come out? All right, go for it.

Kristin: Okay. Most of my [00:38:00] travel is like weekend travel, like a, like a business, you know, there do your thing, come back. 

Will: These are rapid fire questions, by the way. Okay. 

Kristin: Well then don’t ask me what’s in my travel bag. That’s not a rapid answer. I’ll just shorten it by, they’re very organized and I have versions for those weekend trips and then versions for longer trips.

Will: My travel bag is, I just throw everything, like a pair of pants and a shirt. 

Kristin: Right. Not even underwear. 

Will: If it’s just one day. I could power through. What are your thoughts on soup? 

Kristin: Gross. 

Will: No, no. I remember chicken noodle soup. 

Kristin: I can eat chicken noodle soup. Yes. That’s the only soup I can eat. 

Will: Ramen. 

Kristin: Is that a soup?

I think of that as a pasta. 

Will: Ramen, ramen, noodle soup. 

Kristin: It’s not [00:39:00] soup, it’s not, or you don’t, you don’t say soup. You don’t say ramen noodle soup. That’s chicken noodle soup. 

Will: You don’t say ramen soup? 

Kristin: No, you say noodle. 

Will: I swear. I think the, the packages say soup on it. I’m sure the 

Kristin: real ramen, I’m sure real like Asian dishes are more soup like.

Will: It’s pretty soup like, there’s just big things in it. 

Kristin: I guess, I don’t know. It’s a, it’s a hybrid between pasta and soup. 

Will: Okay. They’re still working on the, what’s your go to karaoke song? 

Kristin: Um, Bitch by Meredith Brooks. 

Will: Okay. I’m surprised you have one. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: I mean, I need to get myself. You never 

Kristin: went to karaoke.

You were always studying. 

Will: Oh, as 

Kristin: you 

Will: studied. [00:40:00] Oh, yes. Right. Well, no, you were working harder than I was. 

Kristin: Yeah, but we still like grad students know how to have fun. Med students just like study. 

Will: Uh, we know how to have fun. It’s just that while we have fun, we’re also studying, we’re learning about the Krebs cycle,

your, I’ll see your coworkers kid, your coworkers kid comes into the office selling Girl Scout cookies. How do you react? 

Kristin: You buy some. 

Will: No. How do you react? Pretend I’m a Girl Scout selling cookies. How do you react to me? I walk into your office. 

Kristin: Well, okay. Say something. 

Will: Would you like to buy some cookies?

Kristin: Of course. What do you have? 

Will: See, my first thing that I would say would be, how did you get in here? 

Kristin: It’s the coworker’s child. 

Will: Oh, right. Okay. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: Okay. 

Kristin: Yeah. What do you have? What are the options? I’ve got, 

Will: um, I’ve got, they used to be called Caramel Delights, but because [00:41:00] I’m a 39 year old little girl, um, I 

Kristin: got, I want that cut into a blooper.

I don’t, I don’t, I 

Will: don’t remember the, the new name for the Caramel Delights. 

Kristin: Okay. 

Will: Samoas. That’s what they are. 

Kristin: Oh yeah. That’s the most popular. 

Will: We have Samoas. Yeah. Then Mints. 

Kristin: Okay. 

Will: Lemon drops and do si dos. 

Kristin: Okay. Oh, no, 

Will: we also have, um 

Kristin: What about those chocolate ones? 

Will: Oh, Fruity Loose. 

Kristin: That is not I think you’re making these up.

Yes, 

Will: I am. Okay. I’ve been making them up for a while now. Lemon 

Kristin: drops! That’s a candy. Um, I’ll take two boxes of Samoas, please. 

Will: You’re a Samoas fan. 

Kristin: Well, my husband likes them, and so I will get some and bring them to him. Did you hear? You’re not listening to me, little girl. 

Will: Sorry, ma’am. 

Kristin: Continue, please. My husband likes them, [00:42:00] so I can get some for him.

Will: How many does he eat? Two’s a lot of boxes. 

Kristin: No, it’s not. It’s just one more than one. 

Will: How big is your husband? 

Kristin: Um, freakishly large. 

Will: Really? You would describe me as freakishly large? 

Kristin: Freakishly tall,

Will: very gangly. Okay. Um, kind of cheap, but okay. You can have two boxes of cookies. I don’t know. You don’t 

Kristin: want me to buy two from a 

Will: girl here in a nice office. Uh, I mean, it seems like you make a lot of money 

Kristin: employed. Oh, I should buy more. Okay. Well, what’s your goal? What are you going for? Okay. 

Will: Um, sell me out.

All of them. 

Kristin: I don’t think I’ll be doing that, but I’d go up to five boxes. I hear your 

Will: husband loves cookies. I have a lot more scenarios, but we’ll save it for next time. Uh, anything else you want to tell the audience? I always ask you that and you hate it. 

Kristin: You, anything else you want to tell the [00:43:00] audience?

Will: I love you. 

Kristin: Oh, okay. 

Will: I love you all. 

Kristin: And he needs you to love him. 

Will: It’s getting late. We’re getting a kind of punchy, a little bit punchy. Uh, no, we, um, um, that’s it for, for Glock Talk. Uh, thank you all. For listening. Leave us if 

Kristin: you are still listening. , 

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Kristin: not all of them.

Major ones. We’ll put it that way. We’re not on what’s the, what’s the Trump one. We’re not on that 

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Kristin: of course, 

Will: as usual. 

Kristin: So, we have Well, and there’s something we gotta, we gotta say before we can do that. Oh, oh, that’s 

Will: right. Uh, we have had a Jonathan sponsor on Patreon for a long time. [00:45:00] Somehow, we missed the name and have not been including it whenever I shout out the Jonathans.

Kristin: Yes, an egregious oversight. 

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Kristin: you guessed it, 

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Kristin: Thanks Kelly. 

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Knock knock, goodbye. Hey Kristen, how’s 

[music]: the eye contact with your doctor?[00:47:00] 

Kristin: Um, like when I go in for a visit and we’re having a conversation, it’s hit or miss, you know, sometimes they look at you, but a lot of the time they’re looking at their computer because they have to write down all the things. 

Will: You’re a big eye contact person. 

Kristin: I am. It’s a pet peeve if you’re not making eye contact when someone is talking.

Will: You’ve told me so for times. 

Kristin: Many, many times. 

Will: You know what helped though? 

Kristin: What? 

Will: Dax Co Pilot from Microsoft. 

Kristin: That would help. 

Will: It makes a big difference. 

Kristin: Yeah, you’re right. 

Will: Reduces administrative burden, lets physicians focus on patients, make that eye contact, form a connection. 

Kristin: That’s right. Not 

Will: having to look at the computer all the time.

Kristin: Right. 

Will: 90 percent of patients say their physician spends less time at a computer. When they’re using Dax co pilot, 

Kristin: that’s what I want. 

Will: It’s a big deal. 85 percent of patients say their physician is more focused with Dax co pilot. You like focus. 

Kristin: Sure. Focus on 

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