Glauc Talk: Celebrating 100 Episodes with Old Person Smell!

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Will: [00:00:00] Knock, knock, hi! Knock, knock, hi!

Welcome everybody to Knock, Knock, Hi! with the Glockenfleckens. I am Dr. Glockenflecken, also known as Will Flannery. 

Kristin: I am Lady Glockenflecken, also known as Kristen Flannery. 

Will: And guess what? 100 episodes today! We did it. We did. Never thought we’d make it this far. 

Kristin: I did. 

Will: Oh, okay. 

Kristin: You just needed to believe in yourself.

I’ve just been 

Will: holding on to this stress and anxiety that we’d make it all the way. You didn’t tell me we would make it easily. 

Kristin: Oh, you wouldn’t have believed me anyway. You like to have all that stress and anxiety. It’s why you became a physician. 

Will: Oh, yeah, it just gets me going. Yeah! 100 episodes. 

Kristin: 100. 

Will: What have you learned over the last 100 episodes?

Kristin: Uh, I’ve [00:01:00] learned that 

Will: Have you learned about things, things that you like talking about, things that you don’t like talking about? What really gets you going? 

Kristin: Well, I’ve learned a lot about, um, the The healthcare policy slash system 

Will: side 

Kristin: of things, uh, and I don’t like what I have learned there. That’s just depressing.

Will: Do you like learning about it? Or do you, does even that make you like, I’d rather be Doing anything. 

Kristin: Um, no, listen, uh, we may, we may be a hundred episodes in on Knock Knock High, but I am, what, 20 years deep of knowing you, so I’ve been having to listen to stuff like this for a very long time now. It’s just, it’s part of my life, whether I like it or not.

Will: I have, uh, learned a lot about different areas of medicine, which I think is, is important. You know something that [00:02:00] is hard for ophthalmologists to do. 

Kristin: Mm hmm. 

Will: We don’t get out much. 

Kristin: That’s true We’re very see the other people 

Will: in our little world. So I’ve also learned that we Can work together 

Kristin: you and I 

Will: yeah.

Kristin: Yeah. I mean it helps that we’re we’re never alone in here 

Will: What do you mean? 

Kristin: We have our producers that can overhear what we’re saying, I feel like that keeps us on our best behavior. 

Will: Does it keep, do we need to do a few episodes where Shahnti and Rob are not listening to us? Well, 

Kristin: and we know the audience will be listening, right, so, so we, we can’t get too comfortable.

Will: I think what that means is maybe we need to have a few drinks for an episode once and see what happens. 

Kristin: That’d be fun. 

Will: A drunk talk glock talk. 

Kristin: That’s a good idea. We should have done that for this episode. Number 100. 

Will: No, I need a clear head for 100. 

Kristin:

Will: don’t know. 

Kristin: Well, some of us are able to do things. I don’t think we ever told anybody, but this is a glock 

Will: talk episode.

This is 

Kristin: a glock talk. Just the two of us. 

Will: Yes, and [00:03:00] so I, I’m still having fun. 

Kristin: Yeah, this is fun. I like this. This is One of my favorite parts of the job. 

Will: And I don’t know, it’ll be interesting to see where it takes us in the next hundred episodes. So we want to thank everybody for listening and being here, especially those of you who are with us from the beginning, but if you just joined us, 

Kristin: welcome to this weird little world.

Yes, yes, 

Will: absolutely. Um, and, uh, and so let’s see, what else are we going to talk about today? What’s been going on in our lives? Our live show? Well, yeah, we’ve been 

Kristin: touring. Full swing. It’s very fun, and very tiring, and lots of traveling, and, um, the crowds are great. 

Will: Yes, they are. It’s so fun 

Kristin: to be in front of people and see their faces, and meet them, and talk to them.

Can I 

Will: ask the people a question? 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: This is really just out of curiosity, we’ve really, we’ve enjoyed every location we’ve gone to. It’s, it’s very, it’s fascinating to see the speed of ticket sales in different locations. 

Kristin: Yeah, that’s been a 

Will: So here’s what, here’s, here’s [00:04:00] what I’ve noticed is certain places that you would not consider a big market.

So like Raleigh, Iowa city, um, places like Pittsburgh, they’re, they’re cities, right? But they’re not like. Chicago, New York, Houston, L. A. And so what we’re finding is those kind of smaller markets, they sell really quickly. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: It’s like, right, like, they just, right away. And then so the bigger cities They’re still selling, but people are buying tickets.

It’s like, much later. They wait longer. This is later. Is that just because you have like so many things you can do that you just Right, they don’t 

Kristin: want to commit at any time. You don’t want to 

Will: commit to seeing a Glock, like a social media influencer, doctor, comedian guy? If 

Kristin: something better doesn’t come along, then I’ll go to that.

Will: Which is totally fair, by the way. Uh, I just, I, it’s, uh, cause this is our first time doing like a tour where we’re selling our own tickets. Yeah. Since before, you know, we’ve done speaking. It’s just, we just [00:05:00] show up and do it. Right. Someone else has gotten the people there. Someone else’s job to accumulate the audience.

We’re doing it ourselves. And it’s, uh, so we’re just kind of learning about this. And I think that’s what it is. I really do. I think just, there’s just too many things people in New York have to do. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: Like they have to. 

Kristin: They’ve got a lot of options. 

Will: Walk fast everywhere and too many, like, I don’t know how they decide to do anything.

There’s too many restaurants to choose from. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: When you were growing up, Dublin, Texas, how many restaurants did you have to choose from? 

Kristin: You’ve mentioned that an inordinate number of times. I think it’s fun. 

Will: I love talking to you about it. I don’t know why. Because you hate it so much. 

Kristin: That’s what it’s like to be married, folks.

Will: No, I just, I’m curious. Well, because we were talking about it earlier today during an episode we recorded. And so, uh, it just popped into my mind. So I’m curious. I don’t think I’ve ever gotten this information from you. 

Kristin: Okay. 

Will: How many restaurants did you have to choose from compared to people in New York City?

Okay. 

Kristin: Um, [00:06:00] it would not even register on the New York City scale. I think we had, we had a Dairy Queen, of course. Uh, once I was in high school, the big news was we got a Sonic. That felt monumental. Um, that was a huge deal. Was it 

Will: ribbon cutting? 

Kristin: Probably. Um, I think there was like a local, maybe a Mexican restaurant, if I remember correctly.

Will: Gotcha. 

Kristin: Maybe like one other option? Very few options. Okay. 

Will: Yeah. Didn’t do 

Kristin: a lot of What did you get at the Dairy Queen? I don’t remember the food. I probably got a burger. Did you ever consider working? I got a lot of ice cream. 

Will: Did you ever consider working at the Dairy Queen? 

Kristin: No, I already had a job.

Remember? We’d been through this when I was 10. 

Will: Oh yeah, you were sweeping floors. I’ve been working 

Kristin: since then. I had two jobs by 15. What were you doing? Playing Pokemon? 

Will: Um, I was playing Pokemon, actually. I had, I had, uh, the, the red version of Pokemon. You have no idea what I’m talking about. You [00:07:00] never played Pokemon, did you?

Kristin: No. 

Will: I distinctly remember 

Kristin: I did not have money or opportunity where I Okay, okay, well, 

Will: you know what happened? You know how I got Cause my parents did not buy, like, Nintendo systems or anything. Mm hmm. Um Why? I don’t know. Rotting brain cells. I don’t know. All that stuff. But anyway. My friends, for my birthday, they put their, pulled their money together and got me the big fat Gameboy.

Kristin: Oh, yeah. You remember the 

Will: fat Gameboy? Uh 

Kristin: huh. I do. 

Will: And. Pokemon. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: The red version of it. I got myself a Charmander. 

Kristin:

Will: know Charmander, 

Kristin: because of 

Will: you. Because folks, I talk about Pokemon all the time here. Uh, and, uh, and I remember going to school and like on lunch or after school or before school, we’d just sit there and like play Pokemon together.

Kristin: Yeah, 

Will: this was like in sixth grade, not high school. Okay. 

Kristin: Are you sure? 

Will: Yeah, I was we were pretty young You 

Kristin: weren’t doing that in high school. 

Will: No, but by high school, I was I was way [00:08:00] too cool for school in high school I was busy playing my trombone in the band. Uh 

Kristin: huh. Yep You know someone made a comment on a photo of us recently on social media.

Will: Really? 

Kristin: yeah, and they said to me that I looked way cooler than you and Is this a Nerd slash cool kid love story 

Will: Do we need to share some more photos of what you used to do Well, 

Kristin: listen, I told I responded that I am actually far nerdier than you are 

Will: I never 

Kristin: said you’re cool, but I did say I am nerdier.

You’re the cool 

Will: things I did in high school Okay, I was not I did not actually I quit the band senior year because I I’ve what a 

Kristin: rebel 

Will: That’s right um I played ultimate frisbee. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: And I started doing stand up comedy. 

Kristin: Okay. I was a cheerleader. 

Will: Okay. All right. [00:09:00] Um, I played football in junior high. Is 

Kristin: that what you call it?

Will: Seventh grade. 

Kristin: Yeah. I knew 

Will: this. 

Kristin: I, I do know this and I also know that’s why I’m doubtful about that word. Clay 

Will: okay. Okay. Oh, no. Oh, okay. You’re doubting my football skills. All right. So let me I 

Kristin: know that you got pancaked 

Will: Oh, I did get pancaked 

Kristin: Really? Do 

Will: you remember that? I talked about that a long time.

We said nightmares about it, but um because in Texas I, because I wanted to play basketball, all the football kids got to play in the basketball team. 

Kristin: Right. 

Will: So I knew I had to like play the game. Because football, 

Kristin: football is the main currency. Yeah. So they want as many kids as possible going out for football.

Will: had to play the game. So I, I. Literally. Yeah, so I joined the football team, and I was almost immediately placed on the B team, third string defense. 

Kristin: Real important spot. 

Will: [00:10:00] Third string defense on the B team, me and a friend of mine, we would sit, it’d actually be on the sideline talking about Pokemon because we couldn’t have our games.

Kristin: Okay, you’re not making the case that you’re not a nerd. You’re really not helping yourself. 

Will: Okay, so we did do that, uh, but I did get put in the game a couple times. Once was on a kick off, uh, it was the kick off team. I didn’t do the kicking, I was just supposed to run down there. One time on a kick off, I got a penalty on me because I jumped on the pile after the play.

Kristin: Uh huh. Because 

Will: I wanted to be involved. 

Kristin: Like a dog. 

Will: Yeah, yeah, and then the ref, I just, I have a vivid Like flashbulb memory of him saying, get off the pile, it’s over, or something like that. And then another kickoff, I, that’s when I got flattened. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: I did this thing, it’s like, I see myself in slow motion doing it, like, I kick, because every time we kicked off, I was like, I didn’t, I don’t want the [00:11:00] guy, the ball, like, to come to me, because I don’t want to hit anybody.

Because 

Kristin: then you’re, well, then you’re a target. 

Will: Yeah, I was like this like 130 pound like six foot three. I was like skin and bones. You’re a 

Kristin: piece of spaghetti out there. 

Will: Yeah, and so I didn’t, I didn’t want to hit anybody even though I was taller than everyone, but that’s okay. I was made it. 

Kristin: You could have just like put your arm out on their forehead.

I had 

Will: hollow, I had hollow bones like a bird. Keep them 

Kristin: away. 

Will: And so, um, the guy though on this particular kickoff, He’s a big guy. He was like, started running toward me and he got by all the other people that I was using as a human shield to protect myself, got past all of them. And then I, instead of like running toward him to try and tackle him, I just kind of stood there and just put my, and just braced myself, which didn’t do a lot of good because he ran directly over me.

He like, I think he stepped on me. and then scored a touchdown. 

Kristin: Uh huh. That sounds about right. 

Will: Did not look very good. It’s 

Kristin: cause you didn’t do a spin move. Should have done a spin move. 

Will: [00:12:00] That’s Offense does a spin move. I’m going to say, if somebody’s 

Kristin: running after you, I’m going to do a spin move. How would a defender do a spin move?

I’m getting out of there. You know what I would have done? I would have ducked. 

Will: You would I 

Kristin: would have ducked and then I would have done a somersault. This is 

Will: a good time to remind everyone that Kristen is the least athletic, not athletic, least competitive, least competitive person in the history of humankind.

Kristin: Look. I don’t want to get pancaked. 

Will: All right, so let me, I’m still trying to convince you that I was actually pretty decent at this, uh, because the last game of the season actually was put out there to play defense on the defensive end. I was on the defensive line and, um, It was garbage time, last game of the season, but I tackled the quarterback, I was trying to scramble, I tackled him out of bounds, it was like a fly, I was like jumped, I like flew through the air, and tackled him out of bounds, and then the whole sideline, they were [00:13:00] treating me like I was like a charity case, like 

Kristin: oh my 

Will: god, Flannery, he did it!

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Kristin: Like 

Will: that’s for him! I got big hit of the week. See, 

Kristin: now this is a pity award. My 

Will: name was on a bulletin board. In the locker room. What people didn’t know in that, because it was on the opponent’s sideline when I tackled him. And that, um, I never spoke up about, because I like the attention, was that I totally tackled that guy after he was already out of bounds.

Don’t tell anybody. Okay? I don’t want that award taken away from me. It’s the, I think the limit, 

Kristin: you know, statute of limitations is passed, probably. 

Will: You think so? Probably. All right. Let’s, let’s take, let me tell, let’s take one break and then we’ll come back and actually talk about stuff that matters.

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All right, here we go. So what are we going to do? I have a couple of things we want to, I want to touch on. One is we had to wrap up a conversation that we had at a previous Glock talk episode about wearing scrubs in public. Oh man, the response that we got from that conversation. So just to recap, uh, we were talking about our, just both of our respective thoughts on wearing scrubs in public.

Kristin: Correct. 

Will: Your thoughts were as long as the scrubs like are clean There’s not like blood and guts all over the scrubs like you don’t really care 

Kristin: I don’t I do not care and I think most people outside of health care also do not care minus the like Germaphobes, you know, like the people that like the Howie Mendels of the world 

Will: Right, and so, and then my thought is that, you know [00:15:00] me, like, I try very hard at all costs to try to change before I go out into any public place.

Yeah, as much to my annoyance. Right, because Because I want you 

Kristin: to just stop by the store on your way home, pick something up, Come home, right? Like, what’s the big deal? 

Will: And so we talked about this for, like, half an hour on an episode, and 

Kristin: People had opinions! 

Will: So over on our Patreon, uh, so Gabe, uh, he said, if it’s hospital scrubs, no.

Like if I don’t know, 

Kristin: right? Like those vending machine, 

Will: like the vending machine, the paper scrubs. Yeah. Um, they’re not technically paper, but they kind of feel like paper. Nice scrubs though. Like what I’m wearing now, like brand, brand name scrubs. Okay. Which is, I get that, but I think a lot of people would still disagree with that, and I think Gabe’s in healthcare as well.

Uh, Caitlin, another person on Patreon, is like, if you’re coming and going from work and they’re not gross, it’s fine, don’t wear them to the gym or something that’s weird. [00:16:00] 

Kristin: Right. That would be weird. 

Will: Okay. 

Kristin: But yeah, as I’m saying, if you’re just coming and going from work and you need to just stop and run a quick errand, as most people might on their way home from work.

Will: All right, but here’s an email. This is from Amanda, who said Totally agree with the feeling that scrubs just have a contaminated vibe and that’s what I think a lot of people feel I think I mentioned that as well. Yeah, it’s like just the the idea It’s like your imagination just goes wild of all the horrible things that you’ll be exposed to When you’re wearing scrubs, which I don’t think there’s probably a lot of data to like back that up, 

Kristin: right?

And I have never thought that. 

Will: You never thought that? 

Kristin: No, I’m, look, Amanda’s an RN. So, like, it’s what I’m saying. If you’re in healthcare, I think you think about this a lot more. I’m not saying one’s right or wrong. Because maybe, maybe those of you in healthcare, you know, you just are better informed about how many germs [00:17:00] might scrubs or something.

Will: Amanda went on to say that one day at work she was dealing with quite a poop situation. Um. She thought she got everything cleaned off her shoes. 

Kristin: Oh boy. 

Will: But then, uh, tying her shoes the next morning, she spotted two little brown flecks on the top of her 

Kristin: shoe. Eww. See, that’s another thing. You won’t wear your scrubs in public, 

Will: but 

Kristin: you don’t extend that to the shoes.

Shoes are That you wore. 

Will: Yeah. I, I guess. If you’re, like, if you’re in an operating room setting, people wear shoe covers, but not, like, most people in hospital do not wear shoe covers. And so something like this could happen, but it gets better. She says, guess what? The patient tested positive for C. diff. 

Kristin: Oh, dear.

Will: It’s a bad one. 

Kristin: Oh. Yeah. Well, what about, what about her? 

Will: So my point is the scrubs are one thing, but let’s be honest, work shoes in public is the real crime. And now I really understand why [00:18:00] so many nurses change their shoes and leave the work shoes at work, even if they commute in their scrubs. 

Kristin: Yeah, 

Will: are shoes worse than scrubs?

That’s a question, 

Kristin: right? 

Will: I’ve never even thought like, 

Kristin: especially if you’re wearing your shoes into your house If you’re wearing your shoes into the grocery store What kind of monsters wear their shoes in their house? Then, you know, probably not a lot of things are gonna be on that floor that are gonna end up making someone You know what I mean?

Like no one’s licking the floor of a grocery store or something. So so that I’m less worried about Okay, but shoes into your home You Where, you know, you and your children might be on the floor together, for example. True, true. Sometimes you come in and you just melt like a noodle onto the floor and you put your face straight on it and just lie there.

Will: Yes, and I just give it a good lick, too. 

Kristin: Well, I hope you don’t lick it, but you do lay on it. 

Will: You’re making it sound like I’m just dying to get on that floor and just lie all over [00:19:00] it. Just saying, 

Kristin: there’s, it’s, there are variations of bad hair. All right, 

Will: one more, one more email here from Juliana, who’s, uh, an architect.

So I wanted to definitely read this because it’s not a healthcare person. 

Kristin: Okay. We don’t know if she is or isn’t a 

Will: germaphobe. Right. Who says, as a city dweller, I’ve got to side with Dr. Glock here. Scrubs in public are gross. See? Alright. Non healthcare person. Okay. Scrubs are gross. Of course, if the scrubs look pristine, then it’s pretty clear they’re a, a, like a, something that’s, have a job that’s not so gross.

That’s chill. Okay. See? Again, 

Kristin: if they are not soiled 

Will: Yeah, it’s a, it’s a 

Kristin: Yes, which let’s be honest, yours never are. 

Will: But there are so many healthcare professionals on the T in Boston wearing hospital issued scrubs on packed public transit. And they often wear their badges on their commute so I can see their inpatient physicians or floor nurses, not something less gross.

Like, [00:20:00] you know, like a receptionist or something. Um, so it’s icky to be on the way to the office at 7 30 a. m And have an exhausted looking resident with questionably sanitary scrubs pressed up against you on a packed train 

Kristin: against you on a packed train Sure, I wouldn’t I wouldn’t like that I don’t 

Will: know if anybody would want to I 

Kristin: don’t want to touch anyone, scrubs or not.

Will: What world would you want to be pressed up against anybody on a public transit? Right, like they’re 

Kristin: breathing on you, they’re touching, like that’s gross no matter what. 

Will: Okay, well I think um, that was fun to see the response from everybody. Yes, a lot of 

Kristin: healthcare workers do not feel like it’s okay to do, so like we said in the episode, I think you’re mostly policing yourselves, and if your scrubs are clean and you want to just make a quick stop after work, feel free.

Will: We’ll leave it at that. Um, alright, I’ve got another topic for you. 

Kristin: Okay. 

Will: This came up on social media and Okay, how do I say this? 

Kristin: Well, speaking of things that might be 100 [00:21:00] 

Will: Let’s talk about old person smell. All right. Now that is that is not my term. All right, that is no it’s 

Kristin: a term 

Will: It’s a term probably not the best term to be using for this, 

Kristin: right?

Will: So what can we say instead? We could say Elderly scent. 

Kristin: I don’t know that that there’s any way to say this. That’s not Kind of offensive. It’s, 

Will: it’s, it is a, a, a smell that as you age, I’m putting on my doctor hat where I try to explain, to explain aging things to people that without making them sound like they’re old.

So 

Kristin: you can, as we mature, 

Will: that’s a, that’s a good one. As we mature 

Kristin: and we gain years and experience, 

Will: we hence might, uh, possibly acquire a scent. Yes. On our bodies. There 

Kristin: we go. A fragrance. 

Will: From whence they, the, the, the, uh, you know, thine, [00:22:00] uh. 

Kristin: Why are we in Old English all of a sudden? I don’t know. Or Shakespearean.

Will: I don’t know. I’m getting nervous talking about this because I don’t know how people might interpret it. But uh, but this is a real thing. Okay. Yes. It’s a 

Kristin: biological phenomenon that happened. 

Will: There’s even a Wikipedia page and the title of that page is Old Person Smell. 

Kristin: That’s right. All 

Will: right. So, um, I. Was not when you when you mentioned this because I brought this I showed you and you you were like, oh, yeah Yeah, I know what that is.

Yeah, 

Kristin: that’s what my grandparents house smelled like. 

Will: I I never even thought about 

Kristin: yeah You didn’t believe me that it was a real thing. Yeah. I 

Will: was like, what do you mean making this up? 

Kristin: Yeah, 

Will: but it’s and you 

Kristin: were saying it was like no things they’re choosing to use like a perfume or something like no 

Will: Yeah, 

Kristin: just we’re like the body the 

Will: potpourri in the house Yeah, right, but no you you tried to convince me that it was actually the body 

Kristin: Yes, it is a human smell.

Will: So, uh, did a little research and Kristen is correct. There is [00:23:00] biology to this. Old person smell is the characteristic odor of elderly humans. Um, like many other animal, I’m reading from the intro to the Wikipedia page, like many other animal species, human odor undergoes distinct stages based on chemical changes initiated through the aging process.

Kristin: Well, listen, it can go the other way. We can make this less offensive by the cutest thing possible. Little babies have a smell, a very certain characteristic baby smell. 

Will: That’s true. 

Kristin: So it’s on both ends of the age spectrum. 

Will: Correct. And so there’s one study that suggested that this smell may be the result of a chemical called 2 nonanol, N O N E N A L, I think I’m saying that right, nonanol, which is an unsaturated aldehyde, which is associated with human odor during the aging process.

So, but then there’s other studies that, like, say that, oh, that’s not actually what it is. So I don’t know if there’s, like, a [00:24:00] consensus on what exactly The chemical is that’s producing this this scent. 

Kristin: Yes, but the scent itself is a thing. The the arguments here are just about what is the underlying mechanism producing the scent.

Will: And so the then the question that this usually brings up for people is okay. Well, I don’t want that 

Kristin: smell. What can you do about 

Will: it? There is, um, a place in the world called Japan. 

Kristin: You might have heard of it. 

Will: Yes. And in Japan, uh, they, there’s a lot of social value that’s placed on, on grooming 

Kristin: and, 

Will: and, and hygiene, hygiene and not, you know, all this stuff.

So, so there are soaps from Japan that are dedicated to getting rid of this smell. Okay. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: And it’s like, it’s all, uh, persimmon is like the ingredient that they [00:25:00] say does the best at removing it. 

Kristin: Yeah. 

Will: So there you go. Japan. They’re on it. Yeah. They know about this. Persimmon 

Kristin: soap. 

Will: They’re working on it.

They’ve done the work, the research, and they are at the forefront of old person smell innovation. 

Kristin: That’s right. You know, we have a persimmon tree. 

Will: Oh, we do now, yes. 

Kristin: And so when, uh, you get old, I think I might just go out there. 

Will: Just rub some persimmon on me. Make you rub some persimmons 

Kristin: in your pits. 

Will: I’m gonna grab some persimmon off the tree and just bathe right there in the, in the, in the yard.

Kristin: Yep. Just do a little persimmon sponge bath. 

Will: When I noticed that we had that tree, I was like, what on earth is a persimmon? What do you do with a persimmon? 

Kristin: I don’t know. Hey, people know. It’s cool. Do you make sandwiches 

Will: out of persimmon? 

Kristin: I don’t think so. 

Will: Like you put it in a salad? No, it’s a 

Kristin: fruit. You don’t make fruit.

Maybe you can make a jam out of it, I guess. 

Will: Persimmon jelly? 

Kristin: I don’t know. 

Will: Ugh. What, what do you do? I don’t [00:26:00] even know what a persimmon tastes like, but it sounds terrible. 

Kristin: I don’t know. 

Will: Okay, so tell us. Uh, knock, knock, hi, at human content. com. What do we do? We could just Google 

Kristin: it, but this is more fun. Do I just, do I 

Will: pick all the persimmons and send them off to Japan for soap?

I don’t know. Like, what do I do? What do I do? It’s 

Kristin: not a bad idea. We should start. Saving them for for your old age, which is rapidly approaching. 

Will: Okay. Oh, here we go Our our producers are here to save the day. There are many ways to use persimmons including eating them fresh 

Kristin: Okay, 

Will: what do these taste like though?

Kristin: I don’t know go eat one. 

Will: I Don’t know. I think they’re overripe now We didn’t know what to do with them. Oh making them into desserts or other recipes. Okay, so you eat them fresh They taste 

Kristin: best when lightly chilled 

Will: Okay, 

Kristin: add them to salads 

Will: Oh wow. 

Kristin: Pair well with cured meats and blue cheese. They look 

Will: like apples.

They look like apples, but they’re like, they have these ridges on them. They look like, actually, no, not so much like apples, like, um, [00:27:00] Some kind of, like a small gourd. Like a really tiny handheld gourd. That’s kind of what they remind me of. 

Kristin: Hmm. 

Will: So, ripe persimmons taste sweet, rich, tangy, and honey like. That sounds delightful.

Kristin: Alright. And some people describe them as having a jammy or jelly like texture, so you could make jelly. 

Will: So they’re sweet? They’re sweet. Some people say 

Kristin: they taste like a cross between a mango and a roasted sweet pepper with hints of cinnamon and dates. 

Will: All right, you guys, you guys know what to do. Send us your favorite persimmon recipes.

Let’s hear it. Help the Glockenfleckens out with our persimmon tree. All right, let’s take a break. We’ll be right back.

Hey, Kristen. Yeah? I’m full of Demodex mites. 

Kristin: Oh, I see that. 

Will: Are you? 

Kristin: I have no demodex mites. Here, let me give you one. Thank you. I’ll 

Will: let you have another one. 

Kristin: Okay. 

Will: Alright, this one goes on your head. 

Kristin: Oh, okay. 

Will: Alright. I’ll put that there. Keep them on. 

Kristin: Okay. 

Will: Do you know what those guys [00:28:00] do? 

Kristin: They cause red itchy eyelids.

Will: Yep. They’re, well, sometimes they do. They can cause demodex blepharitis. Red, itchy, irritated eyelids, crusty, flaky buildup on your eyelashes. You look a little grossed out by that. 

Kristin: Well, it’s not my favorite thing. 

Will: But they’re so cute though, look at them. 

Kristin: Yeah, is this what they look like? They do look 

Will: like this, they’re not like soft and squishy, they’re probably a little bit more Sturdy and crunchy, but don’t get grossed out.

All right, get checked out. That’s what you need to do. To find out more, go to eyelidcheck. com. That’s E Y E L I D check. com to get more information about these guys, Demodex and Demodex Blepharitis.

All right, so we have one more thing we can do before we head out on our, let’s close out our 100th. Episode extravaganza in which we’ve talked about [00:29:00] old person smell and my addiction to Pokemon as a young child 

Kristin: You know, there’s a picture I can share No, not you playing Pokemon dressing up as a Pokemon no No, just a picture that relates to our discussion about about nerds and cool kids 

Will: All right.

I think people will be excited to hear that see that. Okay, so I asked you to research like Medical things that happened a hundred years ago. Yes. Now, now what does that really have to do with us doing our hundredth podcast episode? No, nothing. They share. It doesn’t matter. The number one hundred. This is our podcast.

We can do whatever we want. One hundred. One hundred. I was trying to think of an ophthalmology thing that’s related to the number one hundred. Um. 

Kristin: Well, if you put a one over here and then your eyeballs are the zeros. 

Will: So what did you come up with in your search for, um, a 100 years of medicine? 

Kristin: Uh, well, okay.

So in [00:30:00] 1924, 100 years ago, German physiologist and psychiatrist Hans Berger recorded the first human electroencephalogram. 

Will: The first EEG, huh? That’s 

Kristin: right. 

Will: Okay. All right. I have an EEG bow tie. 

Kristin: You do. 

Will: People are very impressed whenever I wore that for the first time. 

Kristin: Yeah. Somebody wore it to a show. 

Will: Yes, they came in, they dressed, uh, they brought a reflex hammer as well.

And I had me sign the reflex hammer. I signed a Tromner because they were very impressed that I was able to come up with the name of the reflex hammer. I have so much useless information because of this stupid glockenspiel thing I’ve been doing for so long. 

Kristin: It’s true. 

Will: Like, why do I, I don’t need to know what the reflex hammers are called, but I do.

Now that’s filling 

Kristin: up your brain. 

Will: So Hans Berger, electroencephalogram, how does he, how do you, like, okay, he recorded it. But then. How does he know, like, I imagine it was like What do you do with that once you have the recording? Like, you had the [00:31:00] squiggles. 

Kristin: Yep. 

Will: But then, did he have any idea what they meant?

Kristin: I don’t know. 

Will: It’s a good question. 

Kristin: Did he just make it up? I’m sure they must have known some things. 

Will: You know, like a hundred years ago, they were probably just trying things, right? They could have been. Just put an electrode on the head and see what comes out. 

Kristin: Well, I mean, when did, uh, phrenology come out?

Fall out of favor, just around the same time? 

Will: 10, 15 years ago? No. 

Kristin: All 

Will: right, what else do you have? 

Kristin: Okay. You might have to help me with this pronunciation. Thrombotic Thrombocytopenic 

Will: Purpura. 

Kristin: Purpura. Purpura. 

Will: Nice, you did pretty good. Thrombotic Thrombocytopenic Purpura. I did better 

Kristin: than you. TTP. Is first described by Hungarian American pathologist and physician as if a pathologist is not a physician.

Eli Moskowitz? 

Will: That’s actually a good point. It’s described as a pathologist and physician, in case you didn’t know. Pathologists are physicians everybody. 

Kristin: That’s [00:32:00] right. They’re 

Will: very good ones. 

Kristin: Blame Wikipedia. 

Will: You know, it’s not fair. Because now It’s not fair. Well, I’ll tell you what’s not fair. It’s not fair.

All, everything’s already discovered. 

Kristin: Yeah. All the 

Will: easy Can 

Kristin: you imagine like Oh, well, trust me. That was one of the things about, like, the research that The academic model that we have right now with research, it’s like it was created in a time where it was much easier to publish a paper just describing something new.

Like literally 

Will: a guy, like, at one point opened up an abdomen and we’re like, Oh, I’ll name that. Stuff’s in there. Liver. That’s me. I discovered that. Like, how, I mean, that’s, you know, upgranted. They did live like hundreds of years ago where life was probably very hard. 

Kristin: I’m pretty sure the liver, don’t you think that like, Hippocrates knew about the liver?

Will: No, I think it was Frank Netter that discovered it. 

Kristin: Okay. 

Will: Anyway. 

Kristin: 1924, Johnson and Johnson begins mass [00:33:00] producing the Band Aid. 

Will: The Band Aid. 

Kristin: There you go. 

Will: Hundred years of Band Aids. Hundred years of Band Aids, everyone. 

Kristin: Also. What else 

Will: you got? 

Kristin: Again, this is Wikipedia. Take it or leave it. Right? Who knows? The first inactive tetanus vaccine is discovered and produced.

Will: Awesome. 

Kristin: And the first scarlet fever vaccine. 

Will: Who discovered that one? 

Kristin: Um, Mr. and Mrs. Dick, George and Gladys. 

Will: Really? 

Kristin: That’s what it says. 

Will: Alright, there you go. Um, Big year! I don’t know, maybe they prefer to be called Richard. Mr. and Mrs. Richard. 

Kristin: 1924. 

Will: I can’t believe 1924 was a hundred years ago. 

Kristin: I know. 

Will: Seems like only yesterday.

Kristin: I think that was, I feel like my, one of my grandparents may have been born in 1924. If they were still alive, they’d be a hundred. 

Will: You don’t see a lot of people, you know, when I first started, this is how I feel like [00:34:00] I’m aging into the, in the medical field is because like when I, in residency, in residency I saw a lot of patients.

Born in the 20s, like you’d see the birth date, 20, 1929, 28, 27. All the World War II veterans, like, you know, so we’d see a lot at the VA and now we just never see that birthday anymore. So yeah, I’m seeing patients in the late 30s, like born in the late 30s, a lot of that. 

Kristin: It is 10 years later, so that makes sense.

Yes. 

Will: Are you saying that that’s, uh, like I’m kind of captain obvious here, right? Yeah, I mean, just 

Kristin: anyone that can count. Would. 

Will: Thank you. Thank you for that. All right. I think it’s time to wrap this up, everybody. Thank you for joining us. 

Kristin: I would like to know before we exit here, I would like to know what people would like to see Here 

Will: over the next hundred episodes?

Over the 

Kristin: next 100 episodes, yes. 

Will: Should we start planning our 200th episode? 

Kristin: Let’s do it. What 

Will: happened 200 years ago in medicine? Oh 

Kristin: boy, that’d be interesting. The 

Will: [00:35:00] eye was discovered. 

Kristin: 200 years ago. People didn’t know we had eyes. 

Will: Uh, no, I would love to hear from you. Let us know. Knock, knock. There’s a, there’s a, by the way, there’s a, there’s, there’s a TikTok, a TikTok trend now.

There’s a little game you can play on TikTok where you make the chicken go like over through an obstacle course, but you, uh, to make the chicken go, you have to make the chicken sounds. So you go, brrp, brrp, brrp, brrp, brrp, brrp, brrp, brrp, to make the chicken walk. And then to make it jump over an obstacle, you go, 

Kristin: brrrrrp!

People playing that on the subway or something? 

Will: I was in our bedroom, this was yesterday, so everyone was gone, it was just me and our oldest daughter in the house. She was like in the kitchen or something, and I was playing this game. And I was just, she just, I just, I was being very loud cause you have to be loud, I was like, [00:36:00] and then, uh, and then eventually she started like doing it back to me, having no idea what I was doing.

She had no idea what I was doing. She’s just like, she thought it was sad that I was like talking like a chicken by myself and decided to converse with me. 

Kristin: And she’s, you know, she’s like in that teenage phase. So that’s, she must have thought I was real sad, just took a lot of pity on you. I loved 

Will: it. It was so fun.

Okay. Anyway. Email us. Knock, knock high at human content. com with, uh, any thoughts, questions, uh, if you have any more opinions about scrubs or, um, elderly sense, we’d love to hear from you. Thanks to all the listeners leaving feedback and reviews. If you subscribe and comment on your favorite podcasting app or on YouTube, we can give you a shout out.

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Kristin: Oh. No, that is not competition at all. 

Will: That is competition. 

Kristin: No. 

Will: No? 

Kristin: It’s no competition. 

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Hey Krista, what would you like Jonathan to do for you? 

Kristin: All of my chores. 

Will: All of them. 

Kristin: Yes, every last one. 

Will: Yeah. Yep. I [00:39:00] want 

Kristin: him to Make my bed clean my house Children 

Will: everything. 

Kristin: Yes. 

Will: Well, I don’t know if he can do all of that. But let me tell you about an alternative 

Kristin: Okay, 

Will: the DAX copilot from Microsoft. 

Kristin: Oh, it can do many things 

Will: It can’t do all your chores, but it can help physicians with their documentation, all the administrative burden that sucks the joy out of practicing medicine.

Kristin: Yes, and makes the doctor patient interaction worse. 

Will: Exactly. 85 percent of patients say their physician is more focused when they use DAX Copilot. 93 percent of patients say their physician is more personable. And conversational. 

Kristin: Yes, because you can be a human and actually look them in the eye and talk to them.

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